Political Wrinkles  

Go Back   Political Wrinkles > General Forum > ObamaCare
Register FAQDonate PW Store PW Trivia Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

ObamaCare Discuss Obamacare Isn't Affordable.... at the General Forum; Originally Posted by Surly Why do you pay it? I mean, if you know you are so healthy that you ...

Reply
 
Share LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #21 (permalink)  
Old 07-25-2017, 10:49 PM
Banned
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Western Iowa
Gender: Male
Posts: 7,666
Thanks: 7,708
Thanked 4,100 Times in 2,669 Posts
Default Re: Obamacare Isn't Affordable....

Quote:
Originally Posted by Surly View Post
Why do you pay it? I mean, if you know you are so healthy that you will never have to access the system with a major expensive medical event, don't pay it. Of course you don't deserve this you poor widdle victim. You have turned into a stupid hateful piece of ****. **** you Kirk. I don't have anything against your horse.
It is for my family you dip$#@^k

At 57, why should I have to be with out insurance while the left has spent how much money on the health of those who at parasites on our nation? Why should I, who have paid my way for all of my adult life be subjected to not having any heath insurance while some 22 million who can not afford it now have it under the ACA just as I do?

You turned into a stupid left winger who is never wrong about ANY THING.

HATE TUMP is all your about. You don't care about anyone, except a vet, and that is only because of your job.

Do any of us really know if we are healthy? Tell you what I will pay for your health insurance and you can pay for mine. Then maybe you would understand.

Regards, Kirk
Reply With Quote
  #22 (permalink)  
Old 07-25-2017, 10:54 PM
Surly's Avatar
PW Enlightenment
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Midwest
Gender: Male
Posts: 7,253
Thanks: 2,797
Thanked 3,060 Times in 2,393 Posts
Default Re: Obamacare Isn't Affordable....

Unless we push people to the curb, we pay. It is truly that simple. Why cant you understand that? Seems pretty simple, what part are you getting stuck on?
Quote:
Originally Posted by jimbo View Post
Surly, with UHC it's not about Kirk paying for his health insurance. It's about Kirk paying for someone else's that is the problem.

I paid the maximum for SSI and medicare for 50 + years. Over and above that I paid for my own insurance. Now I draw both, but I could have done better on my own. Why? Because while paying for mine I was forced to pay for others.
__________________
Grab her by the *****, Vote Roy Moore.

-Donald
Reply With Quote
  #23 (permalink)  
Old 07-25-2017, 10:56 PM
Surly's Avatar
PW Enlightenment
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Midwest
Gender: Male
Posts: 7,253
Thanks: 2,797
Thanked 3,060 Times in 2,393 Posts
Default Re: Obamacare Isn't Affordable....

You are the one so insecure in your beliefs you turn every thread that anyone disagrees with you into a personal attack. **** off Kirk.
Quote:
Originally Posted by 300 H and H View Post
It is for my family you dip$#@^k

At 57, why should I have to be with out insurance while the left has spent how much money on the health of those who at parasites on our nation? Why should I, who have paid my way for all of my adult life be subjected to not having any heath insurance while some 22 million who can not afford it now have it under the ACA just as I do?

You turned into a stupid left winger who is never wrong about ANY THING.

HATE TUMP is all your about. You don't care about anyone, except a vet, and that is only because of your job.

Do any of us really know if we are healthy? Tell you what I will pay for your health insurance and you can pay for mine. Then maybe you would understand.

Regards, Kirk
__________________
Grab her by the *****, Vote Roy Moore.

-Donald
Reply With Quote
  #24 (permalink)  
Old 07-25-2017, 11:09 PM
Banned
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Western Iowa
Gender: Male
Posts: 7,666
Thanks: 7,708
Thanked 4,100 Times in 2,669 Posts
Default Re: Obamacare Isn't Affordable....

Quote:
Originally Posted by Surly View Post
You are the one so insecure in your beliefs you turn every thread that anyone disagrees with you into a personal attack. **** off Kirk.
The way I see it, you wish I would have a $600K heart attack.

How personal was that? I am VERY secure in the belief because of DEMCRATS I am having to pay what I do. Some how you never have once tried to address that one. Not a single time. So now I am insecure in my beliefs.

You hate Trump I get that. But it was the Democrats who cooked up this piece of crap called Obama care. I blame all of them, and you to, since you seem to be cool with some one paying 30K into the ACA rip off, Democratic criminal idiots put into our nation...

This thread is all about that.

Regards, Kirk
Reply With Quote
  #25 (permalink)  
Old 07-25-2017, 11:12 PM
Surly's Avatar
PW Enlightenment
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Midwest
Gender: Male
Posts: 7,253
Thanks: 2,797
Thanked 3,060 Times in 2,393 Posts
Default Re: Obamacare Isn't Affordable....

There is 1 way me, you and Kirk don't pay for others healthcare. Push them to the curb. Is that really what you want to do?
Quote:
Originally Posted by jimbo View Post
Surly, with UHC it's not about Kirk paying for his health insurance. It's about Kirk paying for someone else's that is the problem.

I paid the maximum for SSI and medicare for 50 + years. Over and above that I paid for my own insurance. Now I draw both, but I could have done better on my own. Why? Because while paying for mine I was forced to pay for others.
__________________
Grab her by the *****, Vote Roy Moore.

-Donald
Reply With Quote
  #26 (permalink)  
Old 07-25-2017, 11:19 PM
Banned
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Western Iowa
Gender: Male
Posts: 7,666
Thanks: 7,708
Thanked 4,100 Times in 2,669 Posts
Default Re: Obamacare Isn't Affordable....

Quote:
Originally Posted by Surly View Post
There is 1 way me, you and Kirk don't pay for others healthcare. Push them to the curb. Is that really what you want to do?
We used to push them to the ER were they were treated.

Those costs were shifted internally and those who could pay were in fact paying for those who could not. It was far cheaper than the ACA. Obama care created a huge and costly exchange, as government always does, inefficient and unable to sort out and correct situations like I find myself in.

In short it sucks and I am not afraid to say I hate it, and anyone who had anything to do with this abomination.

Regards, Kirk
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to 300 H and H For This Useful Post:
  #27 (permalink)  
Old 07-25-2017, 11:50 PM
Lollie's Avatar
Elle qui tolère Trump
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Ohio
Gender: Female
Posts: 18,076
Thanks: 14,725
Thanked 13,848 Times in 8,501 Posts
Default Re: Obamacare Isn't Affordable....

Oh my..
__________________
Everyone feels benevolent if nothing happens to be annoying him at the moment.
- C.S. Lewis
Reply With Quote
  #28 (permalink)  
Old 07-26-2017, 08:00 AM
Banned
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Western Iowa
Gender: Male
Posts: 7,666
Thanks: 7,708
Thanked 4,100 Times in 2,669 Posts
Default Re: Obamacare Isn't Affordable....


Looks like the Republicans might get some thing done here for a change. Break Obama care, and I can get some relief from my 30K per year health care costs.

Surly I don't want to fight with you, nor do I wish for us to have ill feelings for one another. I just want something done to change this for me and my family. I get really protective of my family's finances when I am paying a persons wage just for my health care.

Finally it looks like some thing will be done.

Regards, Kirk
Reply With Quote
  #29 (permalink)  
Old 07-26-2017, 09:22 AM
PW Enlightenment
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Gender: Male
Posts: 11,379
Thanks: 8,811
Thanked 7,248 Times in 4,382 Posts
Default Re: Obamacare Isn't Affordable....

Quote:
Originally Posted by Surly View Post
Unless we push people to the curb, we pay. It is truly that simple. Why cant you understand that? Seems pretty simple, what part are you getting stuck on?
I'm getting stuck on being forced to pay for somebody else's problem. Not just health care bit poor innocent border invaders and "refugees" who just want a better life and stand up pissers who want to sit down next to my grand daughters.

What part of that is hard to understand.

Surly, the flaw in your health care argument is the typical liberal presumption that the only answer to a problem is to throw more government money at the problem. Aside from the fact that government has never made anything better or cheaper there are other solutions.
Reply With Quote
The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to jimbo For This Useful Post:
  #30 (permalink)  
Old 07-26-2017, 09:51 AM
GottaGo's Avatar
Sanity is overrated.
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Miles to go before I sleep
Posts: 11,971
Thanks: 9,806
Thanked 7,930 Times in 5,069 Posts
Default Re: Obamacare Isn't Affordable....

Quote:
Originally Posted by jimbo View Post
I'm getting stuck on being forced to pay for somebody else's problem. Not just health care bit poor innocent border invaders and "refugees" who just want a better life and stand up pissers who want to sit down next to my grand daughters.

What part of that is hard to understand.

Surly, the flaw in your health care argument is the typical liberal presumption that the only answer to a problem is to throw more government money at the problem. Aside from the fact that government has never made anything better or cheaper there are other solutions.
It's not 'government money'....

The mindset I've recently dealt with from a far, far left liberal I am related to, is that UHC is intrinsically tied to (a copy and paste from his FB rant) :
Quote:
and how it interconnects with issues such as social/income equality, employment stability, transportation, housing, education, campaign finance control, government regulation, water/air quality standards, disease control, women’s reproductive health, childcare .
While a couple items are applicable, I'm seeing a direct relation to a socialistic program.

Why stop at UHC? It's for your own good!!
__________________
Your life is the sum total of the choices you make.
If you don't laugh at yourself, a whole bunch of people will volunteer to do it for you
I never lose. I either win, or I learn....
Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
affordable, isnt, obamacare

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:47 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0