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Originally Posted by ShivaTD View Post
That's a real easy question for a Republican to answer.

First of all the question is whether you want to be one of fifty people that takes away health insurance from over 20 million Americans.
Whereas the CBO estimates that roughly 22 million fewer Americans would be covered under the Republican plan than under ObamaCare, that is largely because there is no individual mandate here. So many young and healthy Americans would surely opt to not pay for healthcare insurance, and take their chances.

Whereas one may question the wisdom of this--what, after all, if they break an arm or a leg, and have to be hospitalized?--it should be their own decision.

Or do you really believe in a paternalistic form of government?

Originally Posted by ShivaTD View Post
Do you want to be one of fifty people that's ignoring two out of three Americans that want Obamacare fixed and not repealed.
On this point, you appear to be correct: In a recent poll, some 54 percent of Americans would prefer ObamaCare to be fixed, compared with 27 percent who want it repealed--or two out of three who expressed an opinion, one way or the other.

The popularity of ObamaCare has risen considerably within the last year or so--perhaps because the Republicans have focused upon repeal, without having a better replacement in mind, to market to the public.

Originally Posted by ShivaTD View Post
Do you want to be one of fifty people that makes "age" a pre-existing condition because those over age 50 will never be able to afford the insurance rates that the Republican legislation will mandate?
Well, you are evidently speaking of the 15-year in-between period (or just 12 years, if one settles for a slightly diminished amount of Medicare at age 62).

But even for that amount of time, why would you suggest that healthcare insurance would be unaffordable for this group?

Originally Posted by ShivaTD View Post
If the Republicans pass the repeal of Obamacare with the current legislation then there's a 100% probability that we will have a socialized one-payer system in the future.
Somehow, I rather doubt it.

But if that were to be the case, I would much prefer full-blown socialized medicine to ObamaCare. (As I see it, ObamaCare is not a "compromise"; rather, it is the worst of both worlds.)

Originally Posted by ShivaTD View Post
There's no ifs, ands, or buts about that because it's going to leave more people uninsured and dying than ever before in the history of the United States and the PEOPLE are going to demand a single-payer system to stop the death toll that will rise every year because people that don't have health insurance do not get annual check-up so diseases that are curable if detected early won't be detected in time and the people will DIE.
The underlying assumption here, I believe, is that Americans have a fundamental right to healthcare--paid for by the government.

I would argue that healthcare is a privilege--nowhere mentioned in the Constitution. (Those who argue that it is a "right" usually take a very broad view of the "General Welfare" clause of the Constitution--Article 1, Section 8--as though the Framers had healthcare in mind here.)
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