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Donald Trump promised Americans, over and over again, in writing and in public remarks, that he would never cut Medicaid. And yet, the president is now an enthusiastic proponent for a Republican health care plan that makes brutal cuts to Medicaid. Iíve been curious as to how the White House and its allies would defend this. Now we know: theyíre defending it by lying. The first real indication of the GOPís rhetorical direction came on Friday, when White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer had this exchange during the official briefing:
  • Q: When you look at the House bill and the Senate legislation, is the Senate legislation the preferred vehicle for this going forward?
  • SPICER: I think the President is very supportive of the Senate bill. Thereís a lot of ideas in there. Heís talked about having heart, and he likes a lot of the reforms that have been in there. Heís committed to making sure that no one who currently is in the Medicaid program is affected in any way, which is reflected in the Senate bill, and heís pleased with that.

For anyone with even a rudimentary understanding of the Republican plan, the idea that Medicaid beneficiaries wonít be ďaffected in any wayĒ is hopelessly bonkers.

And yet, Spicer isnít alone in pushing this outlandish line. Asked yesterday about the GOP planís Medicaid cuts, Kellyanne Conway said with a straight face, ďThese are not cuts to Medicaid.Ē HHS Secretary Tom Price made the same argument.

The nonsense isnít limited to Trump administration officials. Sen. Pat Toomey (R-Pa.), for example, argued yesterday that ďno oneĒ would lose coverage through Medicaid from his partyís plan. (The Congressional Budget Office estimated that 14 million Americans who rely on Medicaid would lose coverage under the House bill, and the Senate bill cuts deeper.) Around the same time, Sen. John Barrasso (R-Wyo.) bragged about his partyís proposal to increase Medicaid spending.

Weíre stuck in a very strange conversation, but no one should be confused about reality. One of the key purposes of the Republican plan is cutting Medicaid. For far-right lawmakers, this is a feature, not a bug. Republicans have wanted to change the nature of the program for many years, and they see this week as a unique opportunity to fulfill an ideological dream. The New York Times reported the other day:

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Since its founding, Medicaid has operated as a partnership between the federal government and the states. Each pays a share of patientsí medical bills, with no overall limit on spending. The [Republican plan] would try to slim down the federal share of that spending, by limiting how much the federal government would pay for each person enrolled in the program. [Ö]

The results, according to independent analyses, would be major reductions in federal spending on Medicaid over time. States would be left deciding whether to raise more money to make up the difference, or to cut back on medical coverage for people using the program. The Congressional Budget Office estimates that the changes would lead to a reduction in spending on Medicaid of more than $800 billion over a decade.
For Republicans, reducing spending on Medicaid by more than $800 billion is not a ďcutĒ and wouldnít adversely affect any of the programís beneficiaries. Whatís more, they apparently expect Americans to believe this.
The GOP actually wants to cut $880 billion from Medicaid. $630 billion worth of these Medicaid cuts will be redistributed to the medical industry and the wealthiest 1% of Americans. 75 million poor/elderly/disabled Americans will lose access to Medicaid programs and facilities so that 3 million wealthy Americans can enjoy generous tax breaks. GOP Medicaid cuts will also devastate treatment/recovery programs for the millions of Americans addicted to Opioid painkillers.
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The GOP actually wants to cut $880 billion from Medicaid. $630 billion worth of these Medicaid cuts will be redistributed to the medical industry and the wealthiest 1% of Americans. 75 million poor/elderly/disabled Americans will lose access to Medicaid programs and facilities so that 3 million wealthy Americans can enjoy generous tax breaks. GOP Medicaid cuts will also devastate treatment/recovery programs for the millions of Americans addicted to Opioid painkillers.
It would be worthwhile if statemen's claiming for example "actual cuts to Medicaid of $880 billion" were supported by the article in the OP. Oh wait, it is much easier to simply demogogue about victimizing the poor for the benefit of the rich than to research the claims.
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It would be worthwhile if statemen's claiming for example "actual cuts to Medicaid of $880 billion" were supported by the article in the OP. Oh wait, it is much easier to simply demogogue about victimizing the poor for the benefit of the rich than to research the claims.
It amazes me that the Democrats claim that the Republican bill is top secret, drafted behind closed doors by a bunch of angry old white men who aren't telling, but somehow they know everything there is to know about it, and they don't like it.
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It amazes me that the Democrats claim that the Republican bill is top secret, drafted behind closed doors by a bunch of angry old white men who aren't telling, but somehow they know everything there is to know about it, and they don't like it.
You know they did release it right?

Senate GOP unveils health care plan after weeks of secrecy - CBS News
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They released a draft. As of now there is no GOP health care plan. The informal public input phase has begun.

The Democrats were commenting on the bill before it was released.
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/theapot.../#4e771ab94318

article from avik roy...an advocate for insuring the poor and criticized the gop house bill for its unaffordability to the aging low income earners.

he has an interesting take. one was noting the cbo would score the new senate bill with 18million folks losing healthcare just for the mandate repeal alone.
the problem with that is the mandate doesn't a tually remove anyone from their health coverage. it only means they'll no longer be required to purchase health insurance by law. thus one can only conclude that it would be a choice for those 18million.

nonetheless, i am still concerned about the aca 40% excise tax due to be imposed on my health insurance plan next year if not repealed. that would make my current plan unaffordable.
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The GOP Senate bill is no better than the GOP House version.

22 million more Americans without healthcare than under our current healthcare law (Obamacare).

$630 billion in tax cuts for the wealthiest 1% of Americans. This money will be yanked from Medicare which serves the old/infirm/disabled/children.
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There is truly nothing the Repubs can do at this point, except make the rich happy and thus more funding for the next election. There is nothing else the right can do. the next Democrat with have to fix the healthcare system, the right will put up token resistance and then complain about UHC forever, but not do anything...
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