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Old 03-31-2017, 06:01 PM
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Anthem is the latest major insurer to voice its displeasure with the uncertainty and political gamesmanship roiling the Affordable Care Act markets, and is now sending signals that it may pull out of the system next year.


If Anthem and its Blue Cross-Blue Shield affiliates do in fact pull back in 2018, as Jefferies analysts David Windley and David Styblo said is “likely” to happen in a note on Thursday, it would leave more than 800,000 individual plan customers in 14 states either without subsidized Obamacare coverage or more limited choices.

The company said in a statement, “We continue to actively pursue policy changes that will help with market stabilization and achieve the common goal of making quality health care more affordable and accessible for all.”

Reading between the lines, the company’s message seems to be that unless Washington gets its act together on health care, Anthem will join other insurance giants like UnitedHealth Group, Cigna, Humana and Aetna in pulling out of Obamacare markets in many regions of the country.

It’s an axiom of the health care industry that insurance companies need certainty and relative tranquility in the marketplace to effectively map out a strategy and set premium levels for the coming year if they are expected to stick with the program.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/insurer-m...180300994.html

Trump administration and GOP efforts to cause the collapse of Obamacare are not going to be tolerated by the major insurance providers that the GOP was relying on to carry Obamacare for two years more (assuming a GOP replacement could pass in Congress).

In spite of the false claims by Trump and members of the GOP Obamacare was on the path to success but it did require fixes for some of it's problems. Instead of fixing the problems the GOP and Trump have tried to make them worse and to create additional problems by refusing to make changes necessary to the law.

An example is the Republican lawsuit against the subsidies in states where the exchanges are run by the federal government.

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Meanwhile, since shortly after Trump took office, the new administration has been pursuing a series of administrative actions to try to undermine Obamacare, in an apparent effort to lend credence to the Republicans’ assertion that the health care law is in a “death spiral” of soaring premiums and shrinking coverage.

One way Trump administration could effectively torpedo Obamacare is by killing off a $7 billion a year out-of-pocket cost-sharing subsidy for insurers and moderate and middle-income people. The subsidies, considered essential by consumers and insurance companies in order to keep insurance costs affordable, are projected to rise to $10 billion next year.

The provision has suffered a serious setback in federal court. If Trump and Health and Human Services secretary Tom Price decide to drop an appeal by the Obama administration of the adverse ruling, then the subsidy likely would go down the drain – with dire consequences for the future of Obamacare.

Ryan optimistically told reporters on Thursday that Trump could keep the subsidies alive while the case works its way through the courts. “While the lawsuit is being litigated, then*the administration funds these benefits,” Ryan said, “That’s how they’ve been doing it, and I don’t see any change in that.”

“Speaker Ryan’s comments are encouraging but not clear enough for companies to make solid business decisions,” said Ceci Connolly, the CEO of the Alliance of Community Health Plans, a not-for-profit network. “If the House maintains its lawsuit and the Trump administration drops the appeal, millions of working families will lose those vital subsidies.”
The insurance companies have finally said no. The Republican Congress can end the lawsuit by adding a single sentence to the PPACA that authorizes the federal subsidies to all health care exchanges as opposed to the current wording that only authorizes the subsidies for the state exchanges.

The insurance companies are putting it right out there. The GOP and Trump can make a simple legislative fix to Obamacare or the insurance companies will pull out and the GOP and Trump, not the Democrats, will take full and unquestionable responsibility for the failure of Obamacare. With the majority of Americans clearly calling on the Republicans to fix and not replace Obamacare the insurance companies have made the move to force the GOP and Trump into the corner to either begin to fix Obamacare or intentionally destroy it without a replacement or a transitional plan for a replacement.

This is the ultimate "in your face" move because the insurance companies do support Obamacare and do see it as being a successful health care program for the American People.
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This is not news. But it is concrete proof that Obamacare is imploding.

Question...; As I recall, he didn't make it or break it,,,,so, Why does President Trump have to fix it?
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I think the American people realize that Obama care would never work. And yes it is dying before our eyes. If Blue Cross Blue Shield drops out of the health insurance markets, there will be a very huge hole in America. I and most others hold the Democrats responsible for this entire mess.

Another failed left wing policy that flew like a lead balloon.

Democrats are solidly responsible for this ACA piece of sh1t. America knows that all to well.

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Libs come up with ObamaCare

Republicans warn libs it will fail and raise insurance costs

Libs ignore warnings and go through with their ill-advised agenda

ObamaCare fails

Libs blame Republicans

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Why does he have to be potus?
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This is not news. But it is concrete proof that Obamacare is imploding.

Question...; As I recall, he didn't make it or break it,,,,so, Why does President Trump have to fix it?
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Actually it was a republican idea originally

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Republicans warn libs it will fail and raise insurance costs
Insurance prices always rise. Republicans said there would be death panels.

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Libs ignore warnings and go through with their ill-advised agenda
Actually libs invited the right to help craft a better bill. They chose not to.
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ObamaCare fails
No it hasn't

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Libs blame Republicans
Republicans instead of crafting a better bill preferred to play politics.
For 7 years they tried to kill Obamacare saying they had a better plan. They lied
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This is not news. But it is concrete proof that Obamacare is imploding.

Question...; As I recall, he didn't make it or break it,,,,so, Why does President Trump have to fix it?
Republicans have finally found the smoking gun causing the implosion of Obamacare! The GOP refusal to fund and fix Obamacare.

The insurance companies know that it's the Republicans that are intent on destroying Obamacare that's the problem.

The American people know that it's the Republicans that are intent on destroying Obamacare that's the problem.

All of the health insurance companies involved want Obamacare fixed and they know Republicans can fix it if they want to.

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New polling Monday showed that*most Americans want to fix the Affordable Care Act,*rather than gut it, as Republicans have long promised.

Fully 68% of Americans want to keep what works and fix the rest, while just 32% prefer the GOP's repeal and replace approach, according to polling from Hart Research. Moreover, the polling showed most Americans —*including 54% of President Trump's voters —*have a favorable view of the Medicaid system, which would face steep cuts under the Republican plan.
New poll shows Americans want to fix Obamacare, not end it, while Koch groups push for full repeal - LA Times

The American people, by a stunning two-to-one margin, overwhelmingly want Obamacare fixed and they know Republicans can fix it if they want to.

The only reason that Obamacare would fail is because Republicans want it to fail and refuse to fix it. Everyone in the United States knows that. Even you know that it's been the goal of Republicans to destroy Obamacare since the moment it passed into law and they've done everything possible to prevent any fixes and to make it as difficult as possible for Obamacare to work. I don't even like Obamacare and only oppose it's repeal because no one is offering anything better and I know that Republicans are doing everything possible to destroy Obamacare.
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I think the American people realize that Obama care would never work.

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Time to stop thinking and pay attention to what the American people realize.

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68% of Americans want to keep what works and fix the rest...
The American People realize that major parts of Obamacare are working and that the other parts can be fixed.

The insurance companies know the major parts of Obamacare are working and that the other parts can be fixed.

It doesn't matter what you think because overwhelmingly the American people and the insurance companies that make it work realize that Obamacare is succeeding and can continue to succeed if given the opportunity.
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Get a clue, insurers were dropping out of the Obamacare disaster before Trump was elected. It is absurd to blame Republicans for not fixing the Democrats mess.
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why does he have to be potus?
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