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Hairy Jello 11-16-2016 03:41 PM

Report: Medicaid enrollment, costs swell under ObamaCare expansion
 
Hopefully Trump can clear this train wreck from the tracks.

Report: Medicaid enrollment, costs swell under ObamaCare expansion | Fox News

Adult enrollment in ObamaCare’s Medicaid expansion has more than doubled expectations in states across the country -- pointing to ballooning costs that threaten budget dollars for priorities like education and infrastructure, according to a report released Wednesday by The Foundation for Government Accountability.

Newly obtained data from 24 of the 29 states with Medicaid expansions show at least 11.5 million able-bodied adults have enrolled. The FGA says adult enrollment for all these states exceeds projections, by an average of 110 percent. Some states have signed up more than four times as many adults as they expected would enroll.

“A lot of folks on the left will say that this is a huge sign of success -- look at all of these people who need coverage and help,” Nicholas Horton, senior research fellow at FGA and co-author of the report, told FoxNews.com. “My response is that it is not success when you have able-bodied adults who are being trapped in welfare and reducing their incentive to work.”

The swelling enrollment also points to potential budget problems for the states.

Starting in January 2017, states’ share of Medicaid expansion costs will increase to 5 percent and, as noted in the FGA’s report, those costs gradually will rise to 10 percent by 2020. With costs rising more quickly than ObamaCare advocates projected, the FGA expects state budgets to take a hit.

“We’ve used deficit spending to pay for these people in federal dollars, and come January, states are going to have to use state dollars to pay for the program,” FGA senior fellow Josh Archambault said. “The one caveat in this is that every state dollar spent on able-bodied adults in a Medicaid program is one less dollar that can be spent on other programs. This is essentially eating up tons of funds at the state level.”

The FGA report also claims that Medicaid expansion makes welfare for able-bodied adults a higher priority than services for the nearly 600,000 seniors and children with developmental disabilities, individuals with brain injuries and others on waiting lists for additional Medicaid services.

But according to the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services, a division under the federal Department of Health and Human Services, these waiting lists are unrelated to the Medicaid expansion and pre-date ObamaCare, formally known as the Affordable Care Act.

Before ObamaCare, Medicaid eligibility extended mostly to low-income, disabled adults and some pregnant women and children. Under the Affordable Care Act, the program now allows coverage for most low-income Americans under age 65 in states that OK’d the expansion -- while other families not qualifying for Medicaid can still receive premium subsidies on the ObamaCare exchanges.

House Republican Study Committee Chairman Rep. Bill Flores, R-Texas, told Fox News that ObamaCare as a whole “is a welfare program masquerading as health care reform.”

“Enrollment projections were nothing but fantasy, cost estimates little more than wishful thinking, and positive health outcomes were grossly overstated,” he said.

But according to CMS, the Medicaid expansion has had major positive health and economic benefits for citizens and states.

“Medicaid expansion does not trade off against coverage for people with disabilities,” CMS spokesman Aaron Albright told Fox News. “In fact, Medicaid expansion has allowed many eligible individuals with disabilities to get coverage.”

The future of ObamaCare – including the Medicaid expansion and other myriad elements of the sprawling program – remains in doubt now that Donald Trump has been elected president. He has vowed to “repeal and replace” the law, and has the support of congressional Republicans who kept their majority in last week’s election.

“Our path forward is clear: we must repeal this unsustainable burden and replace it with real reforms that improve access to quality health care at lower prices,” Flores said.

jimbo 11-16-2016 07:45 PM

Re: Report: Medicaid enrollment, costs swell under ObamaCare expansion
 
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Originally Posted by Hairy Jello (Post 850857)
Hopefully Trump can clear this train wreck from the tracks.

Report: Medicaid enrollment, costs swell under ObamaCare expansion | Fox News

Adult enrollment in ObamaCare’s Medicaid expansion has more than doubled expectations in states across the country -- pointing to ballooning costs that threaten budget dollars for priorities like education and infrastructure, according to a report released Wednesday by The Foundation for Government Accountability.

Newly obtained data from 24 of the 29 states with Medicaid expansions show at least 11.5 million able-bodied adults have enrolled. The FGA says adult enrollment for all these states exceeds projections, by an average of 110 percent. Some states have signed up more than four times as many adults as they expected would enroll.

“A lot of folks on the left will say that this is a huge sign of success -- look at all of these people who need coverage and help,” Nicholas Horton, senior research fellow at FGA and co-author of the report, told FoxNews.com. “My response is that it is not success when you have able-bodied adults who are being trapped in welfare and reducing their incentive to work.”

The swelling enrollment also points to potential budget problems for the states.

Starting in January 2017, states’ share of Medicaid expansion costs will increase to 5 percent and, as noted in the FGA’s report, those costs gradually will rise to 10 percent by 2020. With costs rising more quickly than ObamaCare advocates projected, the FGA expects state budgets to take a hit.

“We’ve used deficit spending to pay for these people in federal dollars, and come January, states are going to have to use state dollars to pay for the program,” FGA senior fellow Josh Archambault said. “The one caveat in this is that every state dollar spent on able-bodied adults in a Medicaid program is one less dollar that can be spent on other programs. This is essentially eating up tons of funds at the state level.”

The FGA report also claims that Medicaid expansion makes welfare for able-bodied adults a higher priority than services for the nearly 600,000 seniors and children with developmental disabilities, individuals with brain injuries and others on waiting lists for additional Medicaid services.

But according to the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services, a division under the federal Department of Health and Human Services, these waiting lists are unrelated to the Medicaid expansion and pre-date ObamaCare, formally known as the Affordable Care Act.

Before ObamaCare, Medicaid eligibility extended mostly to low-income, disabled adults and some pregnant women and children. Under the Affordable Care Act, the program now allows coverage for most low-income Americans under age 65 in states that OK’d the expansion -- while other families not qualifying for Medicaid can still receive premium subsidies on the ObamaCare exchanges.

House Republican Study Committee Chairman Rep. Bill Flores, R-Texas, told Fox News that ObamaCare as a whole “is a welfare program masquerading as health care reform.”

“Enrollment projections were nothing but fantasy, cost estimates little more than wishful thinking, and positive health outcomes were grossly overstated,” he said.

But according to CMS, the Medicaid expansion has had major positive health and economic benefits for citizens and states.

“Medicaid expansion does not trade off against coverage for people with disabilities,” CMS spokesman Aaron Albright told Fox News. “In fact, Medicaid expansion has allowed many eligible individuals with disabilities to get coverage.”

The future of ObamaCare – including the Medicaid expansion and other myriad elements of the sprawling program – remains in doubt now that Donald Trump has been elected president. He has vowed to “repeal and replace” the law, and has the support of congressional Republicans who kept their majority in last week’s election.

“Our path forward is clear: we must repeal this unsustainable burden and replace it with real reforms that improve access to quality health care at lower prices,” Flores said.

How can this be? Didn't Obama hisself, along with Nancy, Harry, and the rest of the Democrats promise that everybody would be covered with better coverage and we'd all save money? $2500 each I believe was the number. Weren't the savings supposed to be used for massive Kum Ba Yah parties where the pot and booze would be abundant and free?

The states that bought into this have no one but themselves to blame.

ny1977 10-27-2017 07:36 AM

Re: Report: Medicaid enrollment, costs swell under ObamaCare expansion
 
One of the reasons the US is collapsing now is that Americans think that decay will be stopped by becoming Fascists and Communists.

Americans think the US will be improved by expanding wars, increasing the debt, and adding more tyranny when the reason the USA is crashing is because the US has wars, is in debt, and has a police state.

Americans say that they love freedom, but then they turn around and say they need the government to give them free Obamacare, build a wall, protect the US from Yemen, wiretap their phones, confiscate guns, forbid people from loitering, arrest people for feeding the homeless, stop farmers from plowing fields, shut down lemonade stands, outlaw protesting, run checkpoints, force people to get rid of dogs, ban vaping, and torture suspects.

Every country has the government it deserves.

AZRWinger 12-12-2017 01:56 PM

Re: Report: Medicaid enrollment, costs swell under ObamaCare expansion
 
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Originally Posted by ny1977 (Post 914577)
One of the reasons the US is collapsing now is that Americans think that decay will be stopped by becoming Fascists and Communists.

Americans think the US will be improved by expanding wars, increasing the debt, and adding more tyranny when the reason the USA is crashing is because the US has wars, is in debt, and has a police state.

Americans say that they love freedom, but then they turn around and say they need the government to give them free Obamacare, build a wall, protect the US from Yemen, wiretap their phones, confiscate guns, forbid people from loitering, arrest people for feeding the homeless, stop farmers from plowing fields, shut down lemonade stands, outlaw protesting, run checkpoints, force people to get rid of dogs, ban vaping, and torture suspects.

Every country has the government it deserves.

There is a tiny fringe of Americans that believe in fascism and communism as the ideal government. Let's see the evidence for your claim.

Lumara 12-12-2017 02:38 PM

Re: Report: Medicaid enrollment, costs swell under ObamaCare expansion
 
Personal responsibility is sadly lacking in many welfare programs, and Medicaid is one of them. There is no legitimate reason to take money from one person to pay for another person's health care. This is where family and charity should come in, not the taxpayers. When the individual is removed from the payment process, there is zero incentive to make better health decisions and not run to the doctor over every little thing.

saltwn 12-12-2017 03:49 PM

Re: Report: Medicaid enrollment, costs swell under ObamaCare expansion
 
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Originally Posted by Lumara (Post 921948)
Personal responsibility is sadly lacking in many welfare programs, and Medicaid is one of them. There is no legitimate reason to take money from one person to pay for another person's health care. This is where family and charity should come in, not the taxpayers. When the individual is removed from the payment process, there is zero incentive to make better health decisions and not run to the doctor over every little thing.

medicaid doesn't pay everything in every state. states are different in their management.
and there is the cost of gasoline to even go to the doctor let alone specialist in a nearby town. pretty sure medicaid recipients count every penny and try as well as any to maintain their health.
if family and charity could do it there wouldn't be people in wheelchairs trying to stop this horrible tax bill.

FrancSevin 12-25-2017 05:01 PM

Re: Report: Medicaid enrollment, costs swell under ObamaCare expansion
 
You know you are under Obamacare when the doctor tells you that the insurance will cover "either the anesthetic or the vasectomy. Your Choice.":rolls

GottaGo 12-26-2017 01:22 PM

Re: Report: Medicaid enrollment, costs swell under ObamaCare expansion
 
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Originally Posted by FrancSevin (Post 923461)
You know you are under Obamacare when the doctor tells you that the insurance will cover "either the anesthetic or the vasectomy. Your Choice.":rolls

:rofl2

saltwn 12-27-2017 02:01 AM

Re: Report: Medicaid enrollment, costs swell under ObamaCare expansion
 
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Originally Posted by Hairy Jello (Post 850857)
Hopefully Trump can clear this train wreck from the tracks.

Report: Medicaid enrollment, costs swell under ObamaCare expansion | Fox News

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In the poorest states, (the red ones) the federal government pays 73 percent of Medicaid service costs; the national average is between 57 and 60 percent. Medicaid is a lean program. It costs Medicaid substantially less than private insurance to cover people of similar health status.

AZRWinger 12-27-2017 11:38 AM

Re: Report: Medicaid enrollment, costs swell under ObamaCare expansion
 
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Originally Posted by saltwn (Post 923561)
In the poorest states, (the red ones) the federal government pays 73 percent of Medicaid service costs; the national average is between 57 and 60 percent. Medicaid is a lean program. It costs Medicaid substantially less than private insurance to cover people of similar health status.

Medicare dictates reimbursement rates to healthcare providers whereas private insurance providers don't have the power to dictate cut rate reimbursement. It is likely part of the cost of private care offsets the loss from low Medicare rates. :o


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