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What's the defense gonna be this time? Race card? Fox News propaganda? Republicans' fault? The tried-and-trusted B-B-B-Bush excuse?

Seriously, this has been a turd from the beginning. It's been lie after failure after lie after failure after lie after failure, mixed in with a giant f*cking pile of waivers, extensions, and delays. I've seen Down Syndrome kids in the three-legged race at the Special Olympics get off to a better start than ObamaCare.

Write this down. This is why you work with the other side when drawing up epic legislation that will change the face of this nation! Hell, even that old hag whose face is frozen in place didn't know what was in the damn thing and had to send us on a magical Easter egg hunt in search of answers.

Instead of eggs or candy we found a post-Thanksgiving day dinner Commander in Chief bowel movement.

And Harry Reid and Debbie Ditz are strappin' on bibs.

Can we toss the ACA in the bin and start over? Even Dems are startin' to see this has been a catastrophe and starting to embarrass the Democratic party.

I'm all 'bout compromise. What do ya say we all come to the buffet table and pick some ideas out that'd make a good meal?

Survey shows ObamaCare sending premiums rising at fastest clip in decades | Fox News

A recent survey of 148 insurance brokers shows that ObamaCare is sending premiums rising at the fastest clip in decades.

"For the last, about, five years they've been doing this survey, so this was the largest percentage increase in any quarter since they've been doing (it)," says Scott Gottlieb of the American Enterprise Institute.

"But at 12 percent, 11 percent increase on average across all the states -- that puts it at the upper end of any increase we've seen for decades."

That is the national average in a survey done by Morgan Stanley. But in some states, it found rates are soaring.

"There are specific states with exorbitant increases," says Gottlieb. "Delaware had 100 percent increase, Florida had a 37 percent increase, Pennsylvania 28 percent increase, California had a 53 percent increase in their premiums."

Rates vary widely, often depending on the state and how highly regulated it was to begin with. Analysts, however, say the main reasons for the higher costs are not medical inflation, but rather the requirements of ObamaCare itself.

"There are certain regulations and certain requirements that had to be in there. And because of that it's driven up the costs of these benefits," says John DiVito of the Flexible Benefit Service Corporation, which represents hundreds of agents.Rate hikes include ten essential health benefits along with more than 20,000 pages or regulations.
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way to try to blame it on AHCA, when insurance companies have more customers than in decades.
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way to try to blame it on AHCA, when insurance companies have more customers than in decades.
I'm no economist, but in the real world, the more customers you have, the cheaper the product.

Did I miss something? A meeting perhaps? Did I sleep through some sudden cosmic shift in common f*cking sense?

Premiums are higher. You can't keep your same doctor or health plan. We were lied to. The roll-out was a disaster. The website is still having major issues. We don't know how many of these 7 million paid for their insurance or had insurance before. Everything is more expensive now that the government is involved.

These are facts and can't be disputed. That is a failure!
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way to try to blame it on AHCA, when insurance companies have more customers than in decades.
"There are certain regulations and certain requirements that had to be in there. And because of that it's driven up the costs of these benefits," says John DiVito of the Flexible Benefit Service Corporation, which represents hundreds of agents.Rate hikes include ten essential health benefits along with more than 20,000 pages or regulations."

THIS is ObamaCare.
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I'm guessing it won't be long before the zombie juice wears off even the most hardened Democrats, they snap out of it, and look at ObamaCare with the same look the rest of us have been starin' at it with from the beginning.

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Yeah-uh! That sort of happens when you force them to insure people who previously would not have qualified for policies!
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Yeah-uh! That sort of happens when you force them to insure people who previously would not have qualified for policies!
You mean all those expensive machines at the hospital Lollie frolics around on in a naughty nurse outfit cost a lot of money and expensive treatments cost more?

That's some crazy thinkin'!
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Yeah-uh! That sort of happens when you force them to insure people who previously would not have qualified for policies!
So just let government take care of them via medicaid.
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"There are certain regulations and certain requirements that had to be in there. And because of that it's driven up the costs of these benefits," says John DiVito of the Flexible Benefit Service Corporation, which represents hundreds of agents.Rate hikes include ten essential health benefits along with more than 20,000 pages or regulations."

THIS is ObamaCare.
well dont that just beat the mousey band poor babies have to read and abide by some regulations? I feel so sorry for them---lets play em a violin solo.

they had to abide by regulations before the season of the witch got rid of most regulations and or they got watered down in other laws (snuck in) and didn't have enough inspectors.
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So just let government take care of them via medicaid.
And who's going to pay for that?
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