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40yearfan 03-07-2014 08:01 PM

Obamacare blocks patients paying for treatment
 
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“Essentially, doctors, hospitals, and other health care providers can be told by Washington just what diagnostic tests and medical care are considered to meet ‘quality and efficiency’ standards. These standards will be enforced not just for health care paid for by federally funded programs like Medicare, but also for health care paid for by private citizens and by the health insurance they or their employers purchase,” the study explains.

“These standards are specifically designed to limit the funds that Americans may choose to spend on health care so that they cannot keep up with the rate of medical inflation. Treatment that a doctor and patient deem needed or advisable to save the patient’s life or preserve or improve the patient’s health, but which runs afoul of the imposed standards, can be denied, even if the patient is willing and able to pay for it,” the study warns.

The study says that means that Washington “bureaucrats” will set a national standard for care “that is designed to limit what private citizens are allowed to spend to save their own lives.”

“On its face, the law maintains that this limitation does not amount to ‘rationing.’ Indeed, the [law] states, ‘The proposal [by the IPAB] shall not include any recommendations to ration health care.’ … However, the law never actually defines what it means by the word ‘ration.’

“Obamacare authorizes federal bureaucrats to impose limits on what life-saving medical treatments Americans are allowed to get. It may not call this ‘rationing.’ But that doesn’t mean that it isn’t,” the report says.
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Jackass master 03-08-2014 07:45 PM

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They are working toward a NHS program whether folks want to believe it or not. As the cuts in medicare reimbursements kick in it will only get worse.

saltwn 03-08-2014 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by 40yearfan (Post 642048)

mmm...kind of like medicare and insurance companies have done all along huh? go figure

rivrrat 03-08-2014 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by saltwn (Post 642203)
mmm...kind of like medicare and insurance companies have done all along huh? go figure

Umm... no. No one has previously ever been prevented from using their own money to pay for medical care.

jimbo 03-08-2014 09:41 PM

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Sounds like those eevil death panels to me.

winston53660 03-08-2014 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by 40yearfan (Post 642048)

World Nut Daily daily makes a lot accusations here but they don't reference anything to support their diatribe. Where are the references to these accusations?

Lollie 03-08-2014 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by saltwn (Post 642203)
mmm...kind of like medicare and insurance companies have done all along huh? go figure

Has medicare ever denied a woman over the age of 70 a mammogram?
Research it!
:rolls

40yearfan 03-08-2014 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by winston53660 (Post 642219)
World Nut Daily daily makes a lot accusations here but they don't reference anything to support their diatribe. Where are the references to these accusations?

If you would read the whole article, you wouldn't have to ask silly questions:

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The extreme position was revealed in a special report by the NRLC titled “The Affordable Care Act and Health Care Access in the United States,” which analyzes four fundamental policy areas of Obamacare.

It finds several ways that the federal health care law “will drastically limit access to life-saving medical treatment under the law.”

“These four areas include: the ‘excess benefit’ tax coming into effect in 2018, the current exclusion of adequate health insurance plans from the exchanges, present limits on senior citizens’ ability to use their own money for health insurance, and federal limits on the care doctors give their patients to be implemented as soon as 2016.”

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So how about something from you to refute this study instead of just maligning the people who published it? Prove they are wrong.

winston53660 03-08-2014 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by 40yearfan (Post 642238)
If you would read the whole article, you wouldn't have to ask silly questions:



So how about something from you to refute this study instead of just maligning the people who published it? Prove they are wrong.


Is this what you are screaming about?

26 U.S. Code § 4958 - Taxes on excess benefit transactions | LII / Legal Information Institute

pjohns 03-09-2014 12:31 AM

Yes, there WILL be rationing
 
From World Net Daily:

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A new report by the Robert Powell Center for Medical Ethics at National Right to Life warns that one of the Obamacare provisions that ex-House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said Americans would discover if Congress passed the bill is that some seniors will not be allowed to spend as much as they wish on their health care.

The extreme position was revealed in a special report by the NRLC titled “The Affordable Care Act and Health Care Access in the United States,” which analyzes four fundamental policy areas of Obamacare ....

The study finds, for example, that the “Independent Payment Advisory Board,” which starting next January is supposed to make “recommendations to slow the growth in national health expenditures,” will set “quality and efficiency” standards for hospitals and demand that doctors meet government minimums in order to contract with any qualified health insurance plan.

“Essentially, doctors, hospitals, and other health care providers can be told by Washington just what diagnostic tests and medical care are considered to meet ‘quality and efficiency’ standards. These standards will be enforced not just for health care paid for by federally funded programs like Medicare, but also for health care paid for by private citizens and by the health insurance they or their employers purchase,” the study explains.

“These standards are specifically designed to limit the funds that Americans may choose to spend on health care so that they cannot keep up with the rate of medical inflation. Treatment that a doctor and patient deem needed or advisable to save the patient’s life or preserve or improve the patient’s health, but which runs afoul of the imposed standards, can be denied, even if the patient is willing and able to pay for it,” the study warns.
Here is the link: http://www.wnd.com/?s=obamacare


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