Somalia president condemns Minn. terror recruiting

cnredd · #1 (**permalink**) 10-05-2009, 02:40 AM

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The president of Somalia on Sunday denounced the recruiting of young men from Minnesota's huge Somali community for terrorist activity in his war-ravaged homeland, and said he plans to work with the U.S. government to bring those still alive back home.

President Sheik Sharif Sheik Ahmed spoke with The Associated Press while visiting the Minneapolis area, where authorities believe as many as 20 young Somali men—possibly recruited by a vision of jihad to fight—returned to the impoverished nation over the last two years.

At least three have died in Somalia, including one who authorities believe was the first American suicide bomber. Three others have pleaded guilty in the U.S. to terror-related charges.

"We believe this is a wrong action, that these young men were wronged, they were robbed out of their life. Their parents were wronged," Ahmed told the AP through an interpreter. "The laws of the United States were violated. The security of Somalia was violated. So we condemn (them) without reservation."

Ahmed was in the Minneapolis area—home of the largest Somali population in the U.S.—to build support as his government tries to bring peace to the Horn of Africa country that has been plagued by violence for decades. The nation of 7 million people has not had a functioning government since 1991, when clan-based warlords overthrew a dictator and then turned on each other.

Wow...

A sitting president willing to make public condemnations on jihadi recruiting...

Wish WE had one here in the US...

dabateman · #2 (**permalink**) 10-05-2009, 02:57 AM

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Originally Posted by cnredd

Somalia president condemns Minn. terror recruiting

Wow...

A sitting president willing to make public condemnations on jihadi recruiting...

Wish WE had one here in the US...

Some things go unsaid. Next you're going to be pissed that the President didn't come out against wildfires or didn't comment on some kid in Wichita getting the flu...

nursej007 · #3 (**permalink**) 10-05-2009, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by dabateman

Some things go unsaid. Next you're going to be pissed that the President didn't come out against wildfires or didn't comment on some kid in Wichita getting the flu...

Wish he'd found a measely 20 seconds to say something about the assassination of a Border Patrol agent by illegal aliens.

But Nooooooo....

dabateman · #4 (**permalink**) 10-05-2009, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by nursej007

Wish he'd found a measely 20 seconds to say something about the assassination of a Border Patrol agent by illegal aliens.

But Nooooooo....

Reagan didn't mention AIDS until thousands had already died... Your point?

nursej007 · #5 (**permalink**) 10-06-2009, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by dabateman

Reagan didn't mention AIDS until thousands had already died... Your point?

Very simple.
Obama doesn't give a rat's patootie about those defending our borders.
Was that too difficult for you?

dabateman · #6 (**permalink**) 10-06-2009, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by nursej007

Very simple.
Obama doesn't give a rat's patootie about those defending our borders.
Was that too difficult for you?

Oh, so he's defunded the boarder patrol and opened the boarders? Care to provide a link showing me a policy he's signed that's done that? If you can't (and you can't) then you're making assumptions. Just because someone doesn't speak doesn't mean they don't care, and just because you speak doesn't mean you care.

nursej007 · #7 (**permalink**) 10-06-2009, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by dabateman

Oh, so he's defunded the boarder patrol and opened the boarders? Care to provide a link showing me a policy he's signed that's done that? If you can't (and you can't) then you're making assumptions.

You're in the wrong conversation.
This isn't about funding.

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Originally Posted by dabateman

Just because someone doesn't speak doesn't mean they don't care,

His silence on the matter tells all anyone needs to know.
Agent Rosas was assassinated.
Not a word from Obama.
Inexcusable.
He's a punk.

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and just because you speak doesn't mean you care.

I do care.
You're making it plain that you don't.

dabateman · #8 (**permalink**) 10-06-2009, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by nursej007

You're in the wrong conversation.
This isn't about funding.

His silence on the matter tells all anyone needs to know.
Agent Rosas was assassinated.
Not a word from Obama.
Inexcusable.
He's a punk.

I do care.
You're making it plain that you don't.

Oh I care, but there is nothing that I can do to change the situation and nothing that I can do to prevent it from happening again. The agent took an oath to serve and was killed in the line of duty. It's sad, but not unexpected.

You are pushing your personal hate onto Obama, creating something that isn't there. You assume he doesn't care and that's because you have a predefined notion of the President. That's YOUR problem, not his. That's YOUR belief, not his.

nursej007 · #9 (**permalink**) 10-06-2009, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by dabateman

It's sad, but not unexpected.

Really?
I know of no other case where a Border Patrol agent has been assassinated when responding to a sensor.
Show me it's "not unexpected" by kindly providing links to other such cases.
I'm sure you have lots of them... right?

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Originally Posted by dabateman

You are pushing your personal hate onto Obama, creating something that isn't there. You assume he doesn't care and that's because you have a predefined notion of the President. That's YOUR problem, not his. That's YOUR belief, not his.

I don't hate the man...don't think much of him - but don't hate him.
I'm judging him by his actions...in this case silence.

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This, IS, afterall, the homeland.
You'd think he'd show SOME interest in its security and those doing the job of securing its borders.

dabateman · #10 (**permalink**) 10-06-2009, 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by nursej007

Really?
I know of no other case where a Border Patrol agent has been assassinated when responding to a sensor.
Show me it's "not unexpected" by kindly providing links to other such cases.
I'm sure you have lots of them... right?

Actually, there are TONS of examples of working border patrol being a dangerous job.

U.S. Customs and Border Protection - Border Security

Jefferson L. Barr

Alexander Kirpnick

Ricardo Guillermo Salinas

Susan Lynn Rodriguez

Luis Aguilar - Of course President Bush didn't care about national security either because he didn't mention Aguilar...

I don't hate the man...don't think much of him - but don't hate him.
I'm judging him by his actions...in this case silence.

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This, IS, afterall, the homeland.
You'd think he'd show SOME interest in its security and those doing the job of securing its borders.

Based on your standard, no President has cared...

AND, there are hundreds of more examples to show that Border Patrol is a dangerous job and one could reasonably expect to be encountered with the potential of death.

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