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Old 09-25-2009, 01:57 PM
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THEY ARE TRYING TO DISARM US KNOW...

If passed, HR 45 will require you to list on your 2009 1040 federal tax form, all guns you have or own.

snopes.com: Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act


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Concerning the Blair-Holt proposed legislation.

Bill H.R. 45 will require us to put on our 2009 1040 federal tax form all guns we have or own. It may require fingerprints and a tax of $50 per gun.

You can find the full text of the HR 45 bill by doing a search by the bill number, at
<Text of H.R.45 as Introduced in House: Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2009 - U.S.... OpenCongress

If this Bill passes, gun owners will become criminals if you don't fully comply.

You know who to call; I strongly suggest you do. Please send a copy of this e-mail to every gun owner you know.


H.R.45 : To provide for the implementation of a system of licensing for purchasers of certain firearms and for a record of sale system for those firearms, and for other purposes.

Sponsor: Rep Rush, Bobby L. [IL-1] (introduced 1/6/2009) Cosponsors (None)

Committees: House Judiciary

Latest Major Action: 2/9/2009 Referred to House subcommittee. Status: Referred to the Subcommittee on Crime, Terrorism, and Homeland Security.

It has started.

Very Important for you to be aware of a new bill HR 45 introduced into the House. This is the Blair Holt Firearm Licensing & Record of Sale Act of 2009.

Even gun shop owners didn't know about this because the government is trying to fly it under the radar.

To find out about this - go to any government website and type in HR 45 or Google HR 45 Blair Holt Firearm Licensing & Record of Sales Act of 2009. You will get all the information.

Basically this would make it illegal to own a firearm - any rifle with a clip or ANY pistol unless:

-It is registered -You are fingerprinted -You supply a current Driver's License -You supply yourSocial Security # -You will submit to a physical & mental evaluation at any time of their choosing -Each update - change or ownership through private or public sale must be reported and costs $25 - Failure to do so you automatically lose the right to own a firearm and are subject up to a year in jail. -There is a child provision clause on page 16 section 305 stating a child-access provision. Gun must be locked and inaccessible to any child under 18. -They would have the right to come in and inspect that you are storing your gun safely away from accessibility to children and fine is punishable for up to 5 yrs. in p rison.

If you think this is a joke - go to the website and take your pick of ma ny options to read this. It is long and lengthy.. But, more and more people are becoming aware of this. Pass the word along. Any hunters in your family pass this along.

This is just a "termite" approach to complete confiscation of guns and disarming of our society to the point we have no defense - chip away a little here and there until the goal is accomplished before anyone realizes it.

This is one to act on whether you own a gun or not.

If you take my gun, only the criminal will have one to use against me. HR 45 only makes me/us less safe.

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<H.R.45: Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2009 - U.S. Congress - OpenCongress

<H.R. 45: Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2009 (GovTrack.us)

Please.. copy and send this out to EVERYONE in the USA , whether you support the Right to Bear Arms or are for gun control.
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Wow the last nail in our coffin, if this passes....



Yet from reading about it and talking to a friend thats is up to date with most all related fire arm bills ideas the chance of passage is weak. But if worried join a nation group that supports the right to bear arms, like the NRA or one of the others...
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So, how likely is the Blair Holt bill's chance for passage? Pro-gun activists are vigilant but don't seem overly worried about it. They point out that the bill's failure to attract is an indication of a lack of enthusiasm for it among other congressmen. They feel it is too far-reaching and repressive of gun owners' rights to merit serious consideration by a majority of Congress.

snopes.com: Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act
This bill is a dead bill walking but we must keep vigilant in our opposition to it...

Think about it...most of the D's know that supporting this bill would be political suicide.Most of them but not all of them.. have backed away from gun control issues. Yes..we should worry about this type of infringement on our rights but this bill has little chance of passing thanks to all who shed daylight on this attempt to limit our freedom.
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This bill is a dead bill walking but we must keep vigilant in our opposition to it...

Think about it...most of the D's know that supporting this bill would be political suicide.Most of them but not all of them.. have backed away from gun control issues. Yes..we should worry about this type of infringement on our rights but this bill has little chance of passing thanks to all who shed daylight on this attempt to limit our freedom.
But let also not forget that these polititions will do anything to distract us to get what they deem necessary for our own good...
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But let also not forget that these polititions will do anything to distract us to get what they deem necessary for our own good...
Exactly and that's why I said we must keep vigilant in our opposition to it..
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I own several guns for personal protection against criminals. I didn't expect those criminals to be my own government.
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The Democrats aren't going to spend a lot of time on the gun control issue absent some violent event that gets folks worked up over it (like the 1968 assassinations that lead to the 1968 Gun Control Act.) In 1986 there was 1 state that had no restrictions on concealed carry of a handgun, 8 that had a "shall issue" policy that required the state to issue a permit unless it could present a reason why an individual doesn't qualify for one, 24 states that had a "may issue" policy that allowed the state to arbitrarily deny a request, and 15 states that did not issue permits to private citizens and concealed carry was illegal. Contrast that with 2009: 2 states with no restrictions, 38 "shall issue" states, 8 "may issue" states, and 2 "no issue" states.

None of the hysteria predicting OK Corral gunfights, blood flowing in the streets, and fender-benders turning into firefights came true during this time. In fact, violent crime dropped while non-violent crime rose. Criminals aren't stupid when it comes to risk analysis.
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Wow the last nail in our coffin, if this passes....

Yet from reading about it and talking to a friend thats is up to date with most all related fire arm bills ideas the chance of passage is weak. But if worried join a nation group that supports the right to bear arms, like the NRA or one of the others...
And without surprise, this "rules of revolution" is completely false...

snopes.com: Communist Rules for Revolution

Just another attempt to liken people to communists...


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This bill is a dead bill walking but we must keep vigilant in our opposition to it..

I think that's one of the huge problems with today's society.
Sensationalism...

Let me quote something from the snopes web-site that NEEDS to be pointed out and recognized...

As was the 2007 version of Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act, the current version has been referred to the House Subcommittee on Crime, Terrorism, and Homeland Security, and the fact that the bill does not even have a single co-sponsor makes it unlikely that it will ever be brought to a vote before Congress, much less passed.
snopes.com: Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act

That's right ladies and gentlemen.
1) It was originally brought up in 2007.
But I'm betting nobody heard about it then, huh...
Now that Obama's in office (and not Bush), it's time to incite terror of your government...

2) "the bill does not even have a single co-sponsor makes it unlikely that it will ever be brought to a vote before Congress, much less passed
Just because a bill is made present on Capitol Hill doesn't mean squat.
There are TONS of bills that are put on somebody's desk up there, that go nowhere...
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I just got my NRA yearly $35.00 bill.... This year I am happy to spend it...

What amazes me not once in my memory has the Congress seen fit to address
just where the criminal elements do get their guns.

The FBI and other govt., agencies have reported they don't even go to gun shows/gun stores to buy them.
And all the weapons going across the boarder are military type firearms.
Yet they want to dis arm regular citizens every time they try to reform these laws.
That alone should make every citizen think hard about the freedom of the right to bear arms legally... Even if they don't own any.

This one basic freedom is key to all of the others we have.
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I just got my NRA yearly $35.00 bill.... This year I am happy to spend it...
Yes.
They successfully scared the money out of you this year...

The bill has NO CO-SPONSORS and has no hope of passing.
I can't help but wonder how much it would cost for the NRA to pay a legislator to "introduce" such a bill that has no hope of passing, and then the NRA sends out e-mails about the bill's existence (as above) which brings in donations for them...


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What amazes me not once in my memory has the Congress seen fit to address just where the criminal elements do get their guns.

It's ILLEGAL.
What more do you want them to "address" it with?
Make it doubly illegal???


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The FBI and other govt., agencies have reported they don't even go to gun shows/gun stores to buy them.
And all the weapons going across the boarder are military type firearms.
Yet they want to dis arm regular citizens every time they try to reform these laws.
There are NO CO-SPONSORS.
There is NO "they".
To have a "they", you have to have MORE THAN ONE.
And in a congress that has a FEW HUNDRED PEOPLE, you have ONE solitary person who put up this legislation...


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That alone should make every citizen think hard about the freedom of the right to bear arms legally... Even if they don't own any.
This one basic freedom is key to all of the others we have.
Yeah.
Cause it's doing wonders for making sure the government has a warrant before it invades American privacy.
Oh wait. The right-wing (and Obama) doesn't give a damn about that...


I can't think of any right that guns (in current times) have actually protected.
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