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Old 08-24-2009, 03:40 PM
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Default $10B aimed at union retirees

While Healthcare supporters repeatedly try to tie townhall protesters to the insurance industry, let's see what's in the ACTUAL BILL that your tax dollars would go to...:ekk

$10B aimed at union retirees

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Antilabor forces say it's welfare for the UAW and Democrats' union allies. Labor supporters say it falls short of what's needed as tens of thousands of union members are pushed into early retirement as employers cut back health care coverage.

They're both talking about a $10-billion provision tucked deep inside thousands of pages of health care overhaul bills that could help the UAW's retiree health-care plan and other union-backed plans.

It would see the government -- at least temporarily -- pay 80 cents on the dollar to corporate and union insurance plans for claims between $15,000 and $90,000 for retirees age 55 to 64.

Big businesses with union workers are twice as likely to offer retiree benefits as nonunion ones.

Greg Mourad of the National Right to Work Committee called it "a shameless case of political payback," saying Democrats and President Barack Obama are trying "to force the rest of us to pay billions to cover those unions' health care."
So while Healthcare supporters make CLAIMS that protesters are being paid off, the legislation in question actually DOES pay off the very same people organizing to protest the protesters...

Any healthcare supporters equally angry at this?...

But wait!...It gets better...

That $10 BILLION DOLLARS of your tax money that will go directly to union workers?...

Some think that's a pittance...

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Labor advocates say even more funding may be needed.

"It is not enough money," said former U.S. Rep. David Bonior, a Mt. Clemens Democrat who chairs the board at Washington, D.C.-based American Rights at Work, a labor advocacy group. "That will have to be supplemented to fill the gap."
Astroturfing deliberately written into a bill...Happy about this Congressional leadership yet?...
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Old 08-24-2009, 07:16 PM
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Default Re: $10B aimed at union retirees

If this is truly in the final version (I doubt seriously we will see a final version),
then why are "union employess" thought to be less than "non union employees"?
Just because they belong to a union doesn't mean you should cut them out of any final package.
But here's what the final packge will look like if there even is one:
Insurance companies will pay even less and have higher (if you can imagine) deductibles. There will be nothing to fill in the gap for some people. Insurance companies, having won will set a precident for other big corporations to keep screwing us. (Oil companies have us thinking it's OK to price gouge whenever they feel like it).
Go ahead and critisize the people who were trying to help poor people. And don't worry about not being able to stand it alone when your time comes.
Cause after all you're a "pull myself up by my bootstraps" kind a guy.
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