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Old 08-21-2009, 02:49 PM
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More than three out of every four Americans feel it is important to have a "choice" between a government-run health care insurance option and private coverage, according to a public opinion poll released on Thursday.

A new study by SurveyUSA puts support for a public option at a robust 77 percent, one percentage point higher than where it stood in June.

But the numbers tell another story, as well.

Earlier in the week, after pollsters for NBC dropped the word "choice" from their question on a public option, they found that only 43 percent of the public were in favor of "creating a public health care plan administered by the federal government that would compete directly with private health insurance companies."

Opponents of the president's agenda jumped on the findings as evidence that backing for the public option was dropping. Proponents responded by arguing that NBC's tinkering with the language of the question (which it had also done in its July survey) had contributed to the drop in favorability for a public plan.
And here comes the next sentence, which I'm sure plenty of people will just get lost on and automatically discount everything because of ...

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SurveyUSA's poll, which was commissioned by the progressive group MoveOn.org, a proponent of the public plan, gives credence to those critiques.
If anybody can show SurveyUSA doing improper polls, that would be helpful in backing up the inevitable claims...

But here's something I found incredibly interesting...

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While arguments about what type of language best describe the public option persist --"choice" is considered a trigger word that everyone naturally supports -- it seems clear that the framing of the provision goes a long way toward determining its popularity.

In asking its question SurveyUSA used the same exact words that NBC/Wall Street Journal had used when conducting its June 2009 survey. That one that found 76 percent approval for the public option: "In any health care proposal, how important do you feel it is to give people a choice of both a public plan administered by the federal government and a private plan for their health insurance--extremely important, quite important, not that important, or not at all important?"

To ensure that its respondent pool was composed of people from similar demographics and political mindsets, SurveyUSA asked respondents a question pulled directly from NBC's August survey. The results were nearly identical.
New Poll: 77 Percent Support "Choice" Of Public Option

It's rather obvious that the ACTUAL CONTENT of an OPTION is glaringly important.

With that said, can Republicans respect the ACTUAL WISHES OF THE REAL AMERICAN PEOPLE???
I am tired of noisy people pretending they are a majority when they aren't.
I am tired of noisy people pretending that the government should bow to a group that is actually a minority, just cause they claim they are a majority.

A MAJORITY want change.
We can discuss the CONTENT of that change, but the above SHOULD be an obvious part of that change.
Three-quarters of the country is NOTHING to sneeze at...
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From what I have read the public opition means the difference.

Without Public Option, Enthusiasm for Health Care Reform, Especially Among Democrats, Collapses
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Just 34% of voters nationwide support the health care reform plan proposed by President Obama and congressional Democrats if the so-called “public option” is removed. The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey shows that 57% oppose the plan if it doesn't include a government-run health insurance plan to compete with private insurers.

Last week, Rasmussen Reports tracking found that support for the Congressional plan was at 42%.

While the tracking question did not specifically mention the public option, it referred to the bill proposed by the president and congressional Democrats now working its way through Congress. All of the congressional committees that had passed reform legislation included a government health insurance plan. Therefore, it is reasonable to compare those results with the current polling to measure the potential impact of dropping the public option.

The most dramatic impact is a sharp decline in enthusiastic support. Without the public option, only nine percent (9%) Strongly support the legislation. The earlier poll found 26% Strongly in favor of it.

That enthusiasm gap is especially significant since the percentage of those opposed to the legislation has consistently been higher. Last week’s poll found 44% Strongly opposed to the reform legislation. If the public option is dropped, 37% remain Strongly opposed.

The other dramatic shift can be found in the partisan dynamics.

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Without the public option, just 50% of Democrats support the legislation. That’s down from 69% support measured a week ago. But here the enthusiasm gap is especially strong. A week ago, polling found that 44% of Democrats Strongly favored the reform plan. Without the public option, just 12% of Democrats Strongly support it.

Minus the government insurance option, 68% of Republicans remain opposed to the plan, down from 79%.

As for those not affiliated with either major party, 70% are opposed if the public option is dropped. That’s up from 62% in the previous survey.

Without Public Option, Enthusiasm for Health Care Reform, Especially Among Democrats, Collapses - Rasmussen Reports

google Search Polls Public Opition on health care - Google Search
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From what I have read the public opition means the difference.

Without Public Option, Enthusiasm for Health Care Reform, Especially Among Democrats, Collapses
Wednesday, August 19, 2009 Email to a Friend ShareThis.Advertisement
Just 34% of voters nationwide support the health care reform plan proposed by President Obama and congressional Democrats if the so-called “public option” is removed. The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey shows that 57% oppose the plan if it doesn't include a government-run health insurance plan to compete with private insurers.

Last week, Rasmussen Reports tracking found that support for the Congressional plan was at 42%.

While the tracking question did not specifically mention the public option, it referred to the bill proposed by the president and congressional Democrats now working its way through Congress. All of the congressional committees that had passed reform legislation included a government health insurance plan. Therefore, it is reasonable to compare those results with the current polling to measure the potential impact of dropping the public option.

The most dramatic impact is a sharp decline in enthusiastic support. Without the public option, only nine percent (9%) Strongly support the legislation. The earlier poll found 26% Strongly in favor of it.

That enthusiasm gap is especially significant since the percentage of those opposed to the legislation has consistently been higher. Last week’s poll found 44% Strongly opposed to the reform legislation. If the public option is dropped, 37% remain Strongly opposed.

The other dramatic shift can be found in the partisan dynamics.

(Want a free daily e-mail update? If it's in the news, it's in our polls). Rasmussen Reports updates are also available on Twitter or Facebook.

Without the public option, just 50% of Democrats support the legislation. That’s down from 69% support measured a week ago. But here the enthusiasm gap is especially strong. A week ago, polling found that 44% of Democrats Strongly favored the reform plan. Without the public option, just 12% of Democrats Strongly support it.

Minus the government insurance option, 68% of Republicans remain opposed to the plan, down from 79%.

As for those not affiliated with either major party, 70% are opposed if the public option is dropped. That’s up from 62% in the previous survey.

Without Public Option, Enthusiasm for Health Care Reform, Especially Among Democrats, Collapses - Rasmussen Reports

google Search Polls Public Opition on health care - Google Search
And 45% of Fox viewers believe the lies that are being told.
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Oh yeah, we all know, but thank you for reminding us in these trying times that words do mean a lot. How you present anything to the general public
makes a world of difference.
Just look at the phrases
Right to work
Pro Choice
Stimulus (as opposed to "bailout")

Democrats don't understand the concept very well or get on board too late.

"Pro Life" beats "Pro Choice" any day as far as catch phrases go. Life is a reminder word.

"Choice" is a very good word and should be included as often as possible at these rallies and in any speech advocating health care reform.
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And 45% of Fox viewers believe the lies that are being told.
How did Fox get into this. And if you have some complaint pick on the thread starter. I just showed the polls backing his thread.

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How did Fox get into this. And if you have some complaint pick on the thread starter. I just showed the polls backing his thread.

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