White House Appears Open to Insurance Co-ops - Page 2

saltwn · #11 (**permalink**) 08-17-2009, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Michael1

If everyone on the left has that attitude it's obvious whose responsible for the lack of bi-partisanship in Washington.

BTW, this ISN'T a complete plan. It's one possible point in which Obama might compromise. We have a long, long way to go baby...

I can't understand how you can like this possible concession/compromise so much but won't give credit to those loyal, concerned citizens showing up at town hall meetings and voicing their opinion. The grass roots movement is the only thing helping to form this legislation.

If that's what you believe and that's what it takes, so be it. I just want something besides what we got which is zilch.
And we have had zilch for so damn long we started to believe we only deserved zilch.

Mikeyy · #12 (**permalink**) 08-17-2009, 01:20 AM

Oh I don't know. I think I want Michael1 to pay for my health insurance. Thats my plan.

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Originally Posted by saltwn

If that's what you believe and that's what it takes, so be it. I just want something besides what we got which is zilch.
And we have had zilch for so damn long we started to believe we only deserved zilch.

saltwn · #13 (**permalink**) 08-17-2009, 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Mikeyy

Oh I don't know. I think I want Michael1 to pay for my health insurance. Thats my plan.

rocking the boat over there in Aussie land are ya now?
gonna leave us here in the states holdin the bag?

Which reminds my ADD brain-
My husband says he already got left holdin the bag so ...

Mikeyy · #14 (**permalink**) 08-17-2009, 01:30 AM

I am home thats why I'm so chatty now. LOL

cnredd · #15 (**permalink**) 08-17-2009, 01:57 AM

From 2 weeks ago...

Health Care Co-ops: What’s Inside the Box?

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Last month, Senator Kent Conrad (D-ND) suggested that maybe some form of “consumer cooperative” might be a politically acceptable alternative to the “competing public plan” idea. Since then, growing opposition to the “public plan” has fueled growing interest among Sen. Conrad’s colleagues in his “co-op” idea.

However, as with the various other “compromise” ideas now floating around Congress, what really matters is the contents of the package– not the words on the label.

If by health care “co-op,” Congress means allowing private associations to collectively buy health insurance for their members or operate a health insurance exchange, or allowing people to buy health insurance from a non-profit, member-owned private insurer, then those would be positive, pro-consumer developments.

However, simply slapping the word “cooperative” onto a new “insurer,” but then specifying that the government — not the policyholders — picks the board of directors (as Sen. Schumer wants), or that taxpayers will subsidize it, or that it has to pay doctors and hospitals at Medicare rates, would just be an exercise in trying to disguise a “public plan.”

The most positive outcome for the health insurance co-op idea would be if Congress amended the tax-code to allow member-owned health insurers to operate as non-profits, just as decades ago Congress authorized non-profit, member-owned credit unions. America has a long history of member-owned cooperative insurers — known as “mutual” insurers — offering life, auto and property insurance. Indeed, some of them are large and well known, such as Mutual of Omaha, or Northwestern Mutual Life. Offering the option of the same kind of direct consumer-ownership in health insurance not only makes sense, but might also prove to be quite popular.

Spencer Collins · #16 (**permalink**) 08-17-2009, 02:10 AM

That's the way to go in my opinion...privately owned Co-Ops who "must" accept applicants with a pre-existing illness and the clients insurance is portable. That will help lower the cost of health care but I want to see more! I want to see pharmacist and pharmaceutical houses participate with these co-ops.

Competition can be a good thing...

Kizzume · #17 (**permalink**) 08-17-2009, 03:44 AM

Somehow I have a feeling of doom with the compromise.

Spencer Collins · #18 (**permalink**) 08-17-2009, 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Kizzume

Somehow I have a feeling of doom with the compromise.

I hear ya...but Obama does not want to risk all of his political capital on a single venture. When members of his own party started to turn on him "blue dogs"...he knew it was time to take what he could get and he will still have to fight every step of the way. Reform/Progress...can be slow but we will see change.

Kizzume · #19 (**permalink**) 08-17-2009, 04:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Spencer Collins

I hear ya...but Obama does not want to risk all of his political capital on a single venture. When members of his own party started to turn on him "blue dogs"...he knew it was time to take what he could get and he will still have to fight every step of the way. Reform/Progress...can be slow but we will see change.

True.

I just worry that when compromising on something as important as this that it will end up being worse than what we currently have.

Mikeyy · #20 (**permalink**) 08-17-2009, 05:07 AM

Or that its a way to placate those who recieve reelection dollars from the companies involved in order to secure votes. There needs to be insurance reform involved. They are showing record profits while the rest of the economy sags. Something isn't right with that.

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Originally Posted by Kizzume

True.

I just worry that when compromising on something as important as this that it will end up being worse than what we currently have.

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