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A group that calls itself the "DarkSide" has struck a major pipeline supplying the East Coast (including the Southeast)--the Colonial Pipeline--and this has caused severe supply disruptions in some places, and a major spike in prices.

The motive appears to be clear: "[O]ur goal is to make money, and not creat[e] problems for society," its statement says.

So it appears--for the moment, at least--unlikely that this was the work of a state actor (e.g. Russia; China; North Korea; or Iran).

If there is ever clear evidence, however, that another country has struck us in this way, we should surely retaliate; and not merely in some "proportional" way, either.

No, we should make them wish that the US military were no more of a force than a local Boy Scout troop.

And yes, I am quite serious.
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A group that calls itself the "DarkSide" has struck a major pipeline supplying the East Coast (including the Southeast)--the Colonial Pipeline--and this has caused severe supply disruptions in some places, and a major spike in prices.

The motive appears to be clear: "[O]ur goal is to make money, and not creat[e] problems for society," its statement says.

So it appears--for the moment, at least--unlikely that this was the work of a state actor (e.g. Russia; China; North Korea; or Iran).

If there is ever clear evidence, however, that another country has struck us in this way, we should surely retaliate; and not merely in some "proportional" way, either.

No, we should make them wish that the US military were no more of a force than a local Boy Scout troop.

And yes, I am quite serious.
I'd love to read that link.
I haven't seen any shortages. The Canadian pipeline isn't going to us anyway.
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I'd love to read that link.
I haven't seen any shortages. The Canadian pipeline isn't going to us anyway.
If by Canadian pipeline you mean the Keystone pipeline, yep the oil would be processed for export in our gulf coast refineries for export oh the horror of increased exports from American manufacturing. It's much better to have our "friends" in China process the oil with no environmental controls and take US jobs.
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If by Canadian pipeline you mean the Keystone pipeline, yep the oil would be processed for export in our gulf coast refineries for export oh the horror of increased exports from American manufacturing. It's much better to have our "friends" in China process the oil with no environmental controls and take US jobs.
we don't import oil. we presently have all we need.
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A group that calls itself the "DarkSide" has struck a major pipeline supplying the East Coast (including the Southeast)--the Colonial Pipeline--and this has caused severe supply disruptions in some places, and a major spike in prices.

The motive appears to be clear: "[O]ur goal is to make money, and not creat[e] problems for society," its statement says.

So it appears--for the moment, at least--unlikely that this was the work of a state actor (e.g. Russia; China; North Korea; or Iran).

If there is ever clear evidence, however, that another country has struck us in this way, we should surely retaliate; and not merely in some "proportional" way, either.

No, we should make them wish that the US military were no more of a force than a local Boy Scout troop.

And yes, I am quite serious.

I hope the hackers are caught and sent to prison for a very long time. While they are in prison I hope Uncle Sam has the sense to keep these cock suckers in isolation so that they can't teach other prison how to hack and can't pick up pointers from other hackers.And they should be banned from any access to tvs, cellphones, computers and computer literature(video and streaming programs, magazine, manuals, pamphlets and etc) so they can't can't hack into any computers and can't keep their skills up to date. And banned from any writing utensils and paper so they can't write down any computer codes they memorized. If they want to write a letter to mom then prison counselor can do it for them.


Of course I think this should be the punishment for all hackers who make and or use ransomware.


I know many scumbag sympathizers say we shouldn't lock up non-violent offenders. I say yes we should. Just because some criminals aren't violent doesn't make them harmless.
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we don't import oil. we presently have all we need.
For now. But with the cancellation of the drilling permits by Biden during his first week in office, that will not be the case for long.
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We are scheduled to drive from Ohio to lower Virginia in a couple of days. I am now comp templating on postponing that trip due to this event as I am not confident that we will have sufficient gasoline for the return trip.
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we don't import oil. we presently have all we need.
Again, the Keystone pipeline would have delivered crude to US refineries for processing into products for export. Nothing to do with impo4ting oil for domestic consumption. What do you have against creating good paying manufacturing jobs and boosting US EXPORTS?
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I hope the hackers are caught and sent to prison for a very long time. While they are in prison I hope Uncle Sam has the sense to keep these cock suckers in isolation so that they can't teach other prison how to hack and can't pick up pointers from other hackers.And they should be banned from any access to tvs, cellphones, computers and computer literature(video and streaming programs, magazine, manuals, pamphlets and etc) so they can't can't hack into any computers and can't keep their skills up to date. And banned from any writing utensils and paper so they can't write down any computer codes they memorized. If they want to write a letter to mom then prison counselor can do it for them.


Of course I think this should be the punishment for all hackers who make and or use ransomware.


I know many scumbag sympathizers say we shouldn't lock up non-violent offenders. I say yes we should. Just because some criminals aren't violent doesn't make them harmless.
So, are you the same @jamesrage who appears to be defending the use of hacked Clinton emails by the Trump campaign in this thread?
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So, are you the same @jamesrage who appears to be defending the use of hacked Clinton emails by the Trump campaign in this thread?
Did you even read that thread?
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