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Joe Biden wants to spend $2 trillion on infrastructure and jobs. These 4 charts show where the money would go.

https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/ne...an/4820227001/

The plan includes everything from road repairs and electric vehicle stations, to public school upgrades and training for the clean-energy workforce.
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Go bold, Joe. That's what we need.
From what I have seen, less than 10% of this bill would go towards infrastructure. That is NOT what we need.

But that is just par for the course for these massive, left wing, progressive spending bills. Only 9% of the Covid relief bill, was directed at anything related to Covid.

https://www.ccjdigital.com/regulatio...structure-plan
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"Infrastructure bill"? Not really, a lot of bloated government, liberal pet projects and corporate wellfare (funny I though Dems were against that), but not much infrastructure.

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Biden's $2T spending plan, billed as infrastructure bill, spends less than half on infrastructure
President Biden's $2 trillion spending plan, which is being promoted largely as a bill to address infrastructure, directs well under half of its total money to things traditionally defined as infrastructure, according to a Fox News analysis.

The analysis, based on the 25-page summary of the president's proposal for the "American Jobs Plan," indicates less than $750 billion of the spending fits even a broad definition of infrastructure.

The White House is casting a very wide net about what constitutes infrastructure — for example, the American Jobs Plan references "care infrastructure" when talking about $25 billion to upgrade child care facilities and a $400 billion expenditure on care for the elderly and disabled. That's quite different from repairing potholes and rebuilding bridges.

Senate Republicans, meanwhile, in emphasizing that Biden's plan largely does not address infrastructure, are often using a very restrictive definition of the word.
President Joe Biden speaks about the economy in the State Dinning Room of the White House, Feb. 5, 2021, in Washington.

President Joe Biden speaks about the economy in the State Dinning Room of the White House, Feb. 5, 2021, in Washington. (AP Photo/Alex Brandon)

"This plan is not about rebuilding America’s backbone. Less than 6% of this massive proposal goes to roads and bridges," Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., said. "It would spend more money just on electric cars than on America’s roads, bridges, ports, airports, and waterways combined."

Indeed, the White House summary of the American Jobs Plan says it will spend "$115 billion to modernize the bridges, highways, roads, and main streets that are in most critical need of repair" out of more than $2 trillion in the plan. That is slightly under 6%.

But what counts and does not count as infrastructure can be tricky to define, according to Cato Institute Director of Tax Policy Studies Chris Edwards.
Fast Facts: Biden $2T spending plan

$400 billion for home-based care for elderly and disabled

$35 billion for climate change-related R&D

$50 billion for "research infrastructure" at the National Science Foundation

$50 billion for new Commerce Department office "dedicated to monitoring domestic industrial capacity"

$213 billion for home sustainability and public housing

"The first thing to know is there is no hard definition of infrastructure. Economists have no hard definition of infrastructure," Edwards said in an interview with Fox News.

Fox News' analysis of the Biden plan, as outlined in its 25-page fact sheet, broadly counted investments going toward physical repair or building of facilities and systems used by the general public that help the economy. This includes, for example, replacing lead pipes, expanding broadband access and modernizing public schools, in addition to money going to things traditionally associated with the word infrastructure like roads, bridges and ports.

Other items that counted to reach a total of just under $750 billion included $50 billion to preserve infrastructure resilience, $80 billion for Amtrak and $20 billion for road safety.

Elements of the Biden plan Fox News excluded from this analysis included $174 billion being spent on electric vehicles; $400 billion on home-based care for the elderly and disabled; $25 billion on child care facilities; and $50 billion on "research infrastructure" at the National Science Foundation.

Fox News also excluded $213 billion in Biden's plan that's directed at home sustainability and public housing; at least $35 billion aimed at R&D related to climate change; $50 billion to create a new office at the Department of Commerce to "dedicated to monitoring domestic industrial capacity and funding investments to support production of critical goods;" $30 billion to prepare for future pandemics; $45 billion for the federal government to buy clean energy goods; $14 billion "to bring together industry, academia, and government to advance technologies and capabilities critical to future competitiveness;" and several other provisions.

One part of Biden's plan that does not cost any money is the PRO Act, which would essentially override right-to-work laws in states across the country, allowing unions to extract dues from workers who do not want to be members.

Biden's American Jobs Plan, at this point, is simply a 25-page document of suggestions. Legislators have not even begun drafting it. That means dollar totals and specific allocations could change.

But Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., in a comment Wednesday himself noted that the Biden plan includes much more than infrastructure.

"Addressing infrastructure, climate and environmental justice together, and creating millions of good paying jobs, is just the right combination to meet head on the challenges that America now faces," Schumer said. "This will not only make clean energy and clean transportation affordable, it will create millions of new jobs with good wages, which always occurs when we invest in infrastructure and manufacturing as we will be doing here."

Cato's Edwards, meanwhile, says his biggest gripe with the Biden plan is that the money being spent, no matter how it is defined, is largely going into the pockets of big corporations.

"It's hugely ironic because the leading Democrats have bashed corporate welfare and corporate subsidies for years, and they always claim that Republicans do corporate subsidies," Edwards told Fox News. "But in fact, Biden would subsidize corporations hundreds and hundreds of billions of dollars with this plan."

"Manufacturing, $300 billion. Electric vehicles, $170 billion. Broadband, $100 billion. Electric power grid, $100 billion. This is completely unneeded and it's also very dangerous because we don't want the federal government manipulating what broadband companies do, what electric power companies do," Edwards said.

He added: "One of the interesting political things in coming weeks and months will be will the Democrat left, like Sanders and Warren, kind of come to the realization that, 'Hey, this is massive corporate subsidies here, which we're supposed to be against.'"
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We gave Obama close to a trillion dollars to do the same thing. Turned out that the Democrat President couldn't find the shovels needed for these shovel ready jobs.

Why should this Democrat president be any different?





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We gave Obama close to a trillion dollars to do the same thing. Turned out that the Democrat President couldn't find the shovels needed for these shovel ready jobs.

Why should this Democrat president be any different?





Stupidity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.
mitch the itch cherry picked from an over all proposal and there ended up being no oversite as usual.
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From what I have seen,...
seen in the article of the OP which outlines it?
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"Infrastructure bill"? Not really, a lot of bloated ...
roads(jobs), bridges (jobs), lead free water pipes(jobs), education (jobs), broadband infrastructure (jobs), clean up of abandoned mines(jobs), capping off old wells(jobs), nation wide charging stations(jobs), new fleet of electric autos for government(jobs), housing(jobs), expanded services for senior and disabled (jobs), wage increases for care givers (money), new schools (jobs), investment in green energy (jobs), student loan forgiveness (more disposable income back into economy), ...
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seen in the article of the OP which outlines it?


roads(jobs), bridges (jobs), lead free water pipes(jobs), education (not infrastructure), broadband (not infrastructure), clean up of abandoned mines(not infrastructure), capping off old wells(not infrastructure), nation wide charging stations(not infrastructure), new fleet of electric autos for government(not infrastructure), housing(jobs), expanded services for senior and disabled (not infrastructure), wage increases for care givers (not infrastructure), new schools (jobs), investment in green energy (jobs), student loan forgiveness (not infrastructure), ...
Fixed it for you. This is supposed to be an infrastructure bill.
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Fixed it for you. This is supposed to be an infrastructure bill.
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broadband is indeed infrastructure like telephone lines and telegraph when you were a mere lad of 50.
leaving abandoned mines a blight and useless is anti infrastructure yeah
remember when nobody knew if the gas gas or the liquid gas would win the car popularity contest? then eventually pipes and roads brought liquid gas to stations around the nation? you were probably around 11 at the time. that's called infrastructure. A postal truck fleet is infrastructure yes. the large senior population needs structure in planning for their support. that is an infrastructure that allows chaos and lack of services to end most places.
student loan forgiveness and especially free state colleges are a game changer like the GI Bill of WWII which built your country.
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broadband is indeed infrastructure like telephone lines and telegraph when you were a mere lad of 50.
leaving abandoned mines a blight and useless is anti infrastructure yeah
remember when nobody knew if the gas gas or the liquid gas would win the car popularity contest? then eventually pipes and roads brought liquid gas to stations around the nation? you were probably around 11 at the time. that's called infrastructure. A postal truck fleet is infrastructure yes. the large senior population needs structure in planning for their support. that is an infrastructure that allows chaos and lack of services to end most places.
student loan forgiveness and especially free state colleges are a game changer like the GI Bill of WWII which built your country.
A mere lad of 50? Sorry to disappoint but I have some time to go before getting to 50. As for the rest, I suggest you look up the definition of infrastructure before posting.
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A mere lad of 50? Sorry to disappoint but I have some time to go before getting to 50. As for the rest, I suggest you look up the definition of infrastructure before posting.
I suggest you know what country you live in and where all those great inventions you use came from.


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Jerome Kohlberg, who enrolled in the Navy when he was 17, knew the value of the GI Bill: "I got three different degrees on it.
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"I certainly had a lot of friends who never have gone to college and for whom the GI Bill was the difference in life and death, really."

Now 82, Kohlberg is a billionaire businessman, and he's giving away millions to help today's veterans pursue their educations - a way of paying back the investment the country once made in him.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/how-the...anged-america/
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The GI Bill's authors predicted a few hundred thousand vets would take advantage of its education benefits. Instead, nearly eight million did.
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"It was phenomenal," Humes said. "There was also this feeling that these veterans, these ordinary, mostly blue-collar guys, aren't really college material. The president of the University of Chicago, [Robert] Hutchins, who was an innovative educator, he said, 'You know, this benefit is gonna turn our campuses into hobo jungles.'"

The veterans proved everyone wrong.
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In fact, many of the country's post-war leaders got their education on the GI Bill: presidents (George H.W. Bush, Gerald Ford), senators (Daniuel Inouye, Bob Dole, John Warner), even Supreme Court justices (William Rhenquist, John Paul Stevens, Byron White).

Famous actors, writers and even an astronaut reached new heights thanks to the GI Bill.
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"Really, the cold warriors were educated on the GI Bill," Humes said. "They used different weapons. They had the drafting table instead of the draft board. They used their new skills to later on take us to the moon. GI Bill guys were behind that. Same with the Internet, with the invention of computers. You can trace back much of what's good in America today, to the skills and the prosperity that the GI Bill brought to this generation."
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