So by sending the Ukraine actual weapons to defend themselves instead of blankets and pillows sent by the previous administration, that was somehow hurting Ukraine? As usual, you are making no sense.

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Yes, I think his goal is to re-establish the former Soviet Union.

Exactly what "good done" [in Ukraine] by Donald Trump's predecessors was undone (supposedly) by the man?

I agree that we should not wish to go to war with Russia.

But I am not sure that "diplomacy diplomacy diplomacy" will work, either. (After all, diplomacy works only when there is a quid pro quo involved; and just what could we offer Russia, anyway--other than, perhaps, the termination of some sanctions; which, in my opinion, simply should not be revoked.)

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Russian Influenced the elections?
really?

Russian ADS.
Sooo which one of these ads... I guess including the ones AFTER the election... "swayed the election" for Trump?
officials say the 0 to 10 people saw some the ads.
https://www.cbsnews.com/media/russia...ook-a-gallery/

BTW how much money did Bloomberg spend on elections ads these past few elections, EXXON, ADM, Lockheed-martin, Monsanto


"Russia" Hacked the DNC and to Wikileaks
The former Tech Director of NSA Bill Biney says that based the records of the transfer rates of the data "hack", download speeds and file formats that it was not a Hack but a DOWNLOAD. at the source. Even Muller reports admits that they can't "rule out the possibility".
Wikileaks founder Assange has stated clearly and repeatedly that their source it WAS NOT a "STATE" or State surrogate.
As far as Russian' trying to hack/LOOK at DNC and RNC computers, even the former head of the CIA and NSA said that that goes on ALL the time. that's what country's do, they call it spying. ALL countries do it to each other, EVEN Allies. Russia doesn't even do it as well as the US or Israel.

Putin wanted Trump to Win
Yes, aaannnd?
Didn't everyone of the worlds leaders want Trump or Hillary to win? e v e r y o n e of them.
Does that mean that any or ALL rigged/fixed/influenced the elections?
How many world leaders wanted Biden to win this election?
Maybe they all ran a $100 worth of goofy facebooks ads to SWAY the election! THAT's Really why Biden won!

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by sending Giuliani's old azz over there to undermine our ambassador and make up stories to try to pressure the leader of the Ukraine to help orange boy win an election .

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I know I am asking you something that is above your ability, but instead of using a lot of idiotic language that speaks only to your assumption that Trump did something, perhaps you could supply some sort of evidence of your claims?

However, this thread is about Russia trying to help Trump, not the Ukraine. So what does this have to do with the topic?

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This sort of response to the fact that Russia interfered with our elections is ridiculous. It's evidence that you care far more about Trump than about the country. The US has also invaded and bombed other countries. Would you just dismiss an invasion or bombing of the US by saying "tit for tat"?

But Russia was not sure about Trump. They really didn't know what he would do. They knew for a fact Obama would let them do what they wanted.

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I think her point was that EVERYONE "Interferes" with elections. Since elections started there has been interference from individuals, cities, counties, states, and countries. People interfered with every single presidential election in history. It's OK if your guy wins, not ok if the other guys wins.

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The bottom line is that if you try to dismiss a criminal conspiracy organized and implemented by a hostile foreign government to interfere with a US election, you're a god damn traitor who considers it more important to defend your candidate than the country.