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Old 03-18-2021, 12:33 PM
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OK, Russia meddled in an election (what does that mean exactly?)

To the left it means he helped Trump, OK, fine!

China and Iran meddled in the election, so didn't they "Help" Biden?

Why are we not hearing about any investigations? I know why!

Because it is A-OK for other countries to help Democrats, but NOT ok to

help Republicans. This proves it.
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Old 03-18-2021, 01:35 PM
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But would Donald have allowed him to invade, and take over another country on his watch like Obama did?
Absolutely.....

There is no way Trump would have started a war against Russia....

Just like Obama....
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Would you believe an actual Putin quote......?

Putin: I wanted Trump to win the election

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...qS7T56YS8gLM_a

Wanting someone to win an election is not anywhere near the same ballpark as helping them in an election.
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This is a very good example of Trump Derangement Syndrome: Roughly two months after he left office, some people are still busily berating him...
a report was finished and someone reported on it.
now we are discussing it.
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Your source is not trustworthy.

side note today I found out pj media is not trustworthy either. just fyi
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But would Donald have allowed him to invade, and take over another
country on his watch like Obama did? He may not have like Obama
as much as Trump ( who really knows ) but he knew he would have
no problems taking over another country under Obamas watch.
congress kept obama from attacking asaad, so do you think they would vote for war to save a former ussr state from being recaptured by russia?
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Wanting someone to win an election is not anywhere near the same ballpark as helping them in an election.
You don't know Putin or what he is capable of.....


Putin and Donald were boys remember......?
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You don't know Putin or what he is capable of.....


Putin and Donald were boys remember......?
So I assume you have evidence that Putin did more than hope Trump won? Without proof, all you have is speculation.
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congress kept obama from attacking asaad, so do you think they would vote for war to save a former ussr state from being recaptured by russia?
As to your question, directly: I seriously doubt that Congress would do so. (After all, we did not go to war over Russia's absorption of Georgia in 2008.)

But I do have some problem with your phraseology ("a former ussr [sic] state"): It seems to imply that the former Soviet Union had an inherent right to capture those (much weaker) countries surrounding it, and transmute them into pro-Moscow satellite states.

Is this really what you intended?
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But would Donald have allowed him to invade, and take over another
country on his watch like Obama did? He may not have like Obama
as much as Trump ( who really knows ) but he knew he would have
no problems taking over another country under Obamas watch.
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congress kept obama from attacking asaad, so do you think they would vote for war to save a former ussr state from being recaptured by russia?
my point here is congress didn't seem to want to protect any friendly countries
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As to your question, directly: I seriously doubt that Congress would do so. (After all, we did not go to war over Russia's absorption of Georgia in 2008.)

But I do have some problem with your phraseology ("a former ussr [sic] state"): It seems to imply that the former Soviet Union had an inherent right to capture those (much weaker) countries surrounding it, and transmute them into pro-Moscow satellite states.

Is this really what you intended?
Yes it is Russia's aim, actually Putin's aim to absorb as much of the old ussr as possible. Trump certainly didn't fight against Russia for the Ukraine, on the contrary everything possible was done to hurt the Ukraine during the last administration and undo any good done there but predecessors.
when it comes to Putin who we must not fight physically, diplomacy diplomacy diplomacy is key.
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