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News & Current Events Discuss MI bars and Restaurants MUST Record Patron Info. at the General Forum; Originally Posted by GetAClue Yeah and it is pretty much copied from what Trump has already done, outside of overstepping ... |
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like I said there's no cure & no vaccine yet.
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![]() I don't need luck, I have common sense on my side. A virus so terrible that you need a test to determine whether or not you have it will not keep me from living my life.
There's no cure for the flu or a truly effective vaccine. Thousands of people die every year from the flu (I was almost one of them), but we don't shut down the country an place unreasonable demands on people. We deal with it. If you're sick, stay home. Cover your cough or sneeze and practice good hygiene. Just as we should do with Covid. I have had that same stance from day one and nothing I see today would lead me to change my stance.
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Like I said, YOU will wait until it is proven safe beyond any doubt. That will take several weeks or months. Meanwhile people, by your own words, are dying. Me, I'm 73 and have no worries about me, just those around me. You may wonder why that is. And yet, again, probably not.
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As for your common sense, I disagree and normally I would say to each his own but you may actually endanger others, so please stay home as much as possible if you don't like wearing a mask. I have to fly on an airplane probably next month and I really dread it. My lungs have not been good since I was a child.
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I have COPD. I'm 73. I'm as at risk as it gets. I am medically compromised but also, medically trained. Best subject on which to get the Vaccine. Meanwhile, Democratic Governors are shutting down vibrant economies in their state because they WANT TO and THEY CAN!
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My reply to you is: you're in trials like I said there's no cure & no vaccine yet. so I think everything not essential including schools should be shut down till one of those happens or trump's wish comes true that it goes away on its own.
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Trials are not guesses but use of the real deal to test efficacy and tolerance. Said in words on your level...;The vaccine has now been created and it works. We need stats to analyze which of the several vaccines now available are safe and most effective. There are cures available. President Trump had one of them It is available, though limited, along with other intervening therapy's, some not yet "approved." These transfusion must be done in a medical facility, in patient. Some work in most people, and not in others. It is unlikely that a singular one will be universal. If you survive you are "cured." Only Dr. Crusher of Star Trek Fame can create those kinds of cures overnight. This isn't Star trek. A vaccine isn't a cure. It is actually a method of giving you the disease in a weaken form which allows your body to produce anti bodies so you can resist the main infection. I will be getting the shot that does that. And later, if exposed, I will presumably have a natural resistance to the infection. For the record, vaccines do not always work all the time. Sometimes they are useless, in some individuals, and sometimes lethal in others. But they are not cures. Flu vaccines are the trickiest because the flu virus changes overtime and what worked well last season is useless today. Adding another wrinkle that prevents one hour Sci-Fi episode success.
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There are a few different strains of the flu that tend to be prevalent in society in any given year. But due to the time it takes to manufacture and distribute the vaccine, manufacturers have to "guess" which strain will be active in the upcoming year. They do have some methodology to make it a more educated guess, but it is still a guess. Therefore you could be getting a flu shot to build up antibodies for a strain that is NOT going around while NOT building up antibodies for the current strain. It happens quite often. But again, a vaccine is NOT a cure; it's a preventative measure. There is NO manufactured cure for the flu. The only way to beat the flu is for the human immune system to have the ability to fight it off. As for you contention that my refusal to wear a mask is a danger to others, who is believing the propoganda now? I will post a link to this article again where a REAL scientist explains how a cloth mask not only does not work but is actually more of a determent to both the wearer and those they come into contact with. https://www.aier.org/article/the-year-of-disguises/
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