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I'm trying to think of the last time I paid attention to these polls. Back when they were accurate I suppose.

Now when would that have ben.....?Hmmm.

The pollsters are just filling in the guessing gap. To presume they are impartial is a bit of a stretch. To assume they are perhaps accurate beyond a general trend is illogical.

Soft sand to stand on.

I see this election, like almost all I've participated in, as a choice between the lesser of two evils. One, a law and order man you wouldn't let date your daughter and one you wouldn't let know you had one.

I'm going for the former.
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Lol. When that's your only defense, you really are shlt out of luck.
Not when it is true. It has been acknowledged that the current polling process doesn't work. Mainly because the pollsters are interviewing the wrong people. A secondary problem is that people who will vote contra the views of the pollsters have increasingly misrepresented their views just to screw up the polls. Happened last presidential cycle. It's happening this cycle.
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re: election
does trump think hes got it in the bag or else he wouldn't call off relief negotiations?
or is he thinking concentrating on sc wil give him the win?
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does trump think hes got it in the bag or else he wouldn't call off relief negotiations?
or is he thinking concentrating on sc wil give him the win?
A perfect capsulation of a narrow mind think.

There are 50 States. With the possible exception of Kalifiornica, he is active in all of them. South Carolina is already his. Likely so is Pennsylvania. His real work is likely to be plowing the fields in Michigan and Wisconsin.

Democrats are desperate for votes in most of the Flyover states. That's why they are scrubbing the barrel for bottom feeders and employing any tactic they can to boost numbers. Colleges are not going to be as productive as before and A lot of big cities are likely going to have disappointing turnouts for them.

Whatever the polls might be trying to indicate, the scenery across the land is littered with Trump signs over Biden. I hope every employer, who has wheels turning thanks to Trump, gets their people out to the polls.
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A perfect capsulation of a narrow mind think.

There are 50 States. With the possible exception of Kalifiornica, he is active in all of them. South Carolina is already his. Likely so is Pennsylvania. His real work is likely to be plowing the fields in Michigan and Wisconsin.

Democrats are desperate for votes in most of the Flyover states. That's why they are scrubbing the barrel for bottom feeders and employing any tactic they can to boost numbers. Colleges are not going to be as productive as before and A lot of big cities are likely going to have disappointing turnouts for them.

Whatever the polls might be trying to indicate, the scenery across the land is littered with Trump signs over Biden. I hope every employer, who has wheels turning thanks to Trump, gets their people out to the polls.
wait...employers?
"their people" ??
wtf
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Not when it is true. It has been acknowledged that the current polling process doesn't work. Mainly because the pollsters are interviewing the wrong people. A secondary problem is that people who will vote contra the views of the pollsters have increasingly misrepresented their views just to screw up the polls. Happened last presidential cycle. It's happening this cycle.
Acknowledged by whom? National polling in 2016 was very accurate, and state polling in 2016 suffered from one fundamental mistake, the failure to weight results by educational attainment in midwestern state polls which undercounted Trump's core demographic (white voters without college degrees). Most pollsters started weighting their results by educational attainment and 2018 state polling was extremely accurate. When poll after poll shows Biden ahead, it is naive and dumb to think that he isn't winning.
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wait...employers?
"their people" ??
wtf
Are you having trouble with the concept of employers holding responsibility for those who trust them for a paycheck?

I'm not at all surprised.

Most of my people, yes MY people, have families, hopes and dreams based on earning enough money to fulfill those hopes and dreams. Just as I did when I worked for somebody. It is a huge responsibility to have the responsibility of that trust.

I doubt you have a clue about that.
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A perfect capsulation of a narrow mind think.

There are 50 States. With the possible exception of Kalifiornica, he is active in all of them. South Carolina is already his. Likely so is Pennsylvania. His real work is likely to be plowing the fields in Michigan and Wisconsin.

Democrats are desperate for votes in most of the Flyover states. That's why they are scrubbing the barrel for bottom feeders and employing any tactic they can to boost numbers. Colleges are not going to be as productive as before and A lot of big cities are likely going to have disappointing turnouts for them.

Whatever the polls might be trying to indicate, the scenery across the land is littered with Trump signs over Biden. I hope every employer, who has wheels turning thanks to Trump, gets their people out to the polls.
Right now, Joe Biden is very likely to beat Donald Trump in the electoral college. but anything is possible to change several times in the next 28 days.
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Right now, Joe Biden is very likely to beat Donald Trump in the electoral college. but anything is possible to change several times in the next 28 days.
You have 27 days left to enjoy your fantasy. If it becomes a reality, the nation has 77 days to enjoy our freedoms and our hopes for prosperity.

I doubt the Kamala Harris administration will be helpful for the little people.
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Two points....

1) Your graph on 2016 is dated November 8th...The day of the election and NOT a month beforehand.

2) Your graph on 2016 ALSO includes Libertarian candidate Gary Johnson, whereas the 2020 graph shows no third party candidates.


Also, here is Time magazine, from late October 2016, showing Hillary with a FOURTEEN-POINT LEAD less than two weeks before the election.

Hillary Clinton Leads Donald Trump by 14 Points Nationally in New Poll



Now, in honesty, I don't give polls (especially national ones) a lot of credence...

...but if you want to make a comparison that Biden is doing better than Hillary at the same point in time, Time magazine disproves that (They are reporting on a Associated Press-GfK poll)...To be up 14 points 12 days before an election shows Biden would need another 6 points in the next 3 weeks to match it...
Poll results are typically a question of who gets asked what question at what time. Do pollsters gear their polls to a predetermined desired result? You bet they do.

As a result I put almost no credence in any poll.
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