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Old 07-31-2020, 05:06 PM
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sorry but that's BS pj.

MLK, John Lewis, Malcolm X and a host of others radicals starting with Fredrick Douglas, Harriet Tubman and John Brown, helped pave the way and open the space for Black Businessmen like Herman Cain, no matter where those Businessmen landed politically.

Whether on not Lewis LIKED Cain and his politics is another question. But there's little doubt that Lewis would and did fight for Cain's space to live the life he did. That was part of the overall goal of the civil rights movement, to Open the way so that Black men and women had the same open path to pursue their vocational dreams as other Americans.

Imo Both deserve respect as men that seemed to live out their convictions honorable and with courage, in a nation that is still painfully growing into it's ideals.
There is no doubt there was a profound difference between the 2 men. Lewis bought in to the white oppressor grievance model. Cain believed in self determination and personal responsibility.
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Neither was John Lewis. (Yes, he was a congressman for awhile--representing Georgia's Fifth Congressional District--but I really cannot think of any legislation as regarding which, he was central.)


Its not just his Congressional record that is of account here, John Lewis is the one being clubbed by the state trooper in Selma on March 7, 1965
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Its not just his Congressional record that is of account here, John Lewis is the one being clubbed by the state trooper in Selma on March 7, 1965
Yes he was courageous to stand up against the Democrat institution of Jim Crow segregation.

It's sad to see crass politicians like Barack Obama and race hustler Al Sharpton exploit his memory as a partisan political vehicle. The eulogy is a perfect forum for these Democrat huckster appeal to emotion with no opportunity for rebuttal. This is the Democrats idea of political discourse.
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Yes he was courageous to stand up against the Democrat institution of Jim Crow segregation.

It's sad to see crass politicians like Barack Obama and race hustler Al Sharpton exploit his memory as a partisan political vehicle. The eulogy is a perfect forum for these Democrat huckster appeal to emotion with no opportunity for rebuttal. This is the Democrats idea of political discourse.
mm Yes,
that's why Republicans nominated Barry Goldwater for president in 1964. Goldwater who opposed the Voting Rights Act. (John Lewis was on the Bridge getting beaten in that photo in 1965)
Black voters abandoned the Republican party en masse.

That why in the past 15 years (longer) many Republicans had to be begged by Black Republicans and others to attend the commemoration Anniversaries of the Selma Marches or any Civil rights events.
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,Scores of U.S. lawmakers are converging on tiny Selma, Alabama, for a large commemoration of a civil rights anniversary. But their ranks didn’t include a single member of House Republican leadership until the day the event began— a point that isn’t lost on congressional black leaders.
None of the top leaders — House Speaker John Boehner, Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy or Majority Whip Steve Scalise, who was once thought likely to attend to atone for reports that he once spoke before a white supremacist group — originally planned be in Selma for the three-day event that commemorates the 1965 march and the violence that protesters faced at the hands of white police officers. A number of rank-and-file Republicans have been aggressively lobbying their colleagues to attend, and several black lawmakers concurred.
McCarthy announced late Friday he would attend, according to CNN...
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Also Historically there's the Republican Nixon
"“The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I’m saying? We knew we couldn’t make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders, raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did.”
John Ehrlichman
Yes, Republicans have always been sooo concerned about the progress of equal rights for blacks in America and fighting those bad ol democrats trying to help blacks get equal treatment in work, education, housing, health, politics and the justice system.
there are no clean hands AZ.

But All right matters, Am i right?
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Lewis endorsed Biden. Iím pretty sure that he would have been fine with it.
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sorry but that's BS pj.

MLK, John Lewis, Malcolm X and a host of others radicals starting with Fredrick Douglas, Harriet Tubman and John Brown, helped pave the way and open the space for Black Businessmen like Herman Cain, no matter where those Businessmen landed politically.
Do you seriously pay tribute to Malcolm X?

According to Wikipedia, he "advocated for black supremacy." And he sought "the separation of black and white Americans"--in other words, the same thing that George Wallace and Orval Faubus were famous for.

Should he really be honored for these views?
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Lewis endorsed Biden. Iím pretty sure that he would have been fine with it.
Oh, without any question, I'm sure too . . . which is the point.

Work one's entire life against racism and then embrace and endorse a racist if they have a "D" after their name.

If there is one "value" that Democrats can be counted on to exhibit, it is having no core, inviolate principles -- which is of course the tenet of Progressivism, so no harm, no foul in their eyes (for the rest of us? Ughhhh).

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Oh, without any question, I'm sure too . . . which is the point.

Work one's entire life against racism and then embrace and endorse a racist if they have a "D" after their name.

If there is one "value" that Democrats can be counted on to exhibit, it is having no core, inviolate principles -- which is of course the tenet of Progressivism, so no harm, no foul in their eyes (for the rest of us? Ughhhh).

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Lol. We have one racist running for president on a major party ticket this year, and his name isnít Joe.
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Lol. We have one racist running for president on a major party ticket this year, and his name isnít Joe.
If Trump is racist against African Americans, he does a pretty poor job of it. Lowest unemployment numbers for African Americans in the history of this country and many other policies that help Black Americans. What a terrible racist.

Meanwhile, Old Joe talked about a jungle environment if his kids were forced to go to a school that was desegregated, and proudly stated that "you ain't black" if a black man doesn't vote for him. But he's not a racist.
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