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Lumara 07-29-2020 11:08 AM

Over 100 Police Agencies PULL OUT Of Agreements To Guard DNC Convention
 
This is great! The Dems want to defund the police, so they can have their convention without police protection. That is only fair.

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More than 100 law enforcement agencies have reportedly pulled out of security agreements to send personnel to help with security at the Democratic National Convention next month in part because they are concerned about recent efforts to limit law enforcement’s use of tear gas and pepper spray in responding to violent riots.

Milwaukee Police Chief Alfonso Morales was ordered last month to change the department’s policies to ban the use of tear gas and pepper spray.

“Since the Milwaukee order was issued, more than 100 law enforcement agencies in Wisconsin and across the country decided against coming to Milwaukee, Morales told WTMJ-TV on Tuesday,” the Associated Press reported. “They were concerned with directives placed on the police department, including not allowing tear gas or pepper spray, he said.”

In Wisconsin, Franklin Police Chief Rick Oliva said, “It is apparent there is a lack of commitment to provide the Milwaukee Police Department with the resources it needs to ensure the safety of peaceful protesters, attendees, citizens and police personnel. I can not send personnel if they are not properly equipped or will not be allowed to engage in appropriate actions which would ensure their safety.”

Waukesha Police Chief Daniel Thompson responded by indicating that his department would not be sending officers to event, saying, “I understand that use of chemical irritants and pepper spray is serious and those are to be used only when legally justified. But when you take that out of the continuum that doesn’t leave the officers much other than getting harmed or using deadly force and that’s not good for any officer or the public.”
https://gellerreport.com/2020/07/pol...edium=facebook

GetAClue 07-29-2020 11:24 AM

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I hope they have to pay through the nose for private security. They deserve whatever comes their way as a result of their idiotic policy proposals.

Manitou 07-29-2020 11:43 AM

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Rent-a-Dumbass will be their greatest security achievement. The dingbats deserve it.

Dog Man 07-29-2020 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by GetAClue (Post 991109)
I hope they have to pay through the nose for private security. They deserve whatever comes their way as a result of their idiotic policy proposals.

That would be awesome to watch rioters clash with private security. :popcorn

Of course, if anything bad happens, it will be Trumps fault.

FrancSevin 07-29-2020 12:19 PM

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How many here are old enough to remember 1968 Democratic convention? Well they had real police there and it was still total ciaos.
Imagine twice the anger and half the law enforcement.

Dog Man 07-29-2020 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by FrancSevin (Post 991119)
How many here are old enough to remember 1968 Democratic convention? Well they had real police there and it was still total ciaos.
Imagine twice the anger and half the law enforcement.

I was only 10 years old, but I remember my parents having an election party.

FrancSevin 07-29-2020 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Dog Man (Post 991123)
I was only 10 years old, but I remember my parents having an election party.

I was 22 and my wife , along with her parents, wanted us to move TO Chicago. I resisted but she was so damn cute, I couldn't say no. After 7 years SHE had enough and we moved back to St Louis.

Truth be told, I loved Chicago in the 70's. Unbelievable opportunities for a guy willing to work hard. Wouldn't dream of doing it now.

Mellon_Collie 07-29-2020 04:08 PM

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You all do get that most of the convention is virtuale and held on-line, only about 300 people are expected to attend the in-person event.

Manitou 07-29-2020 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Mellon_Collie (Post 991129)
You all do get that most of the convention is virtuale and held on-line, only about 300 people are expected to attend the in-person event.


So, those "security agreements" mentioned in the opening are nothing?

Mellon_Collie 07-29-2020 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Manitou (Post 991132)
So, those "security agreements" mentioned in the opening are nothing?

Probably were last year when they started planing, but now its probably more to do about nothing.

saltwn 07-29-2020 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Lumara (Post 991105)
This is great! The Dems want to defund the police, so they can have their convention without police protection. That is only fair.

you really think democrats want to defund the police across the bored. how brainwashed of you.
haven't you heard people talking about sending police and a mental health person to deal with a mentally ill incident?
course not; you're too busy on fake news sites and programs and emails that hype you.

AZRWinger 07-29-2020 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Mellon_Collie (Post 991134)
Probably were last year when they started planing, but now its probably more to do about nothing.

Well, if it's nothing to worry about then they shouldn't need any police presence at all. After all Democrats are the one true champions of the people. ;)

Police agencies are understandably unhappy about being stripped of non lethal defensive measures leaving them with no options short of lethal force or leaving the violent mob in charge.

Consider that Rayshard Brooks in Atlanta might very well be alive today had the police been able to apply a chokehold to subdue him. :thumbsup

saltwn 07-29-2020 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by AZRWinger (Post 991140)
Well, if it's nothing to worry about then they shouldn't need any police presence at all. After all Democrats are the one true champions of the people. ;)

Police agencies are understandably unhappy about being stripped of non lethal defensive measures leaving them with no options short of lethal force or leaving the violent mob in charge.

Consider that Rayshard Brooks in Atlanta might very well be alive today had the police been able to apply a chokehold to subdue him. :thumbsup

you forgot dc is gonna be virtual

Mellon_Collie 07-29-2020 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by AZRWinger (Post 991140)
Well, if it's nothing to worry about then they shouldn't need any police presence at all. After all Democrats are the one true champions of the people. ;)

Police agencies are understandably unhappy about being stripped of non lethal defensive measures leaving them with no options short of lethal force or leaving the violent mob in charge.

Consider that Rayshard Brooks in Atlanta might very well be alive today had the police been able to apply a chokehold to subdue him. :thumbsup

I normally avoid engaging you like the plague, but if your going to comment on me, at least read the rest of it so you have the full context.

Here let me help you...

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Originally Posted by Mellon_Collie (Post 991129)
You all do get that most of the convention is virtuale and held on-line, only about 300 people are expected to attend the in-person event.

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Originally Posted by Manitou (Post 991132)
So, those "security agreements" mentioned in the opening are nothing?

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Originally Posted by Mellon_Collie (Post 991134)
Probably were last year when they started planing, but now its probably more to do about nothing.

Now if your reading comprehension is sufficiently active, you will see I was commenting about it being an excuse to make a lot too do, since it is unlikely there will be need of the extra officer allowing them to make their point (regardless if I agree with it or not) without violating their oath, But then nuance has never been your strong suit.

AZRWinger 07-30-2020 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Mellon_Collie (Post 991150)
I normally avoid engaging you like the plague, but if your going to comment on me, at least read the rest of it so you have the full context.

Here let me help you...








Now if your reading comprehension is sufficiently active, you will see I was commenting about it being an excuse to make a lot too do, since it is unlikely there will be need of the extra officer allowing them to make their point (regardless if I agree with it or not) without violating their oath, But then nuance has never been your strong suit.


Oh ok, so you are dodging the issue of police being stripped of nonlethal force options because there will only be around 300 present at the DNC convention. Brilliant.

Are you going to address the issue of Democrats insisting police either shoot or retreat? Or, are your comprehension skills not engaged?

Dog Man 07-30-2020 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Mellon_Collie (Post 991129)
You all do get that most of the convention is virtuale and held on-line, only about 300 people are expected to attend the in-person event.

So the rioters may end up outnumbering the attendees. :thumbsup

I'm starting to believe the Democrats are taking away non-lethal means of stopping riots in the hope that a cop will be forced to actually shoot someone.

We all know they would LOVE to use that against Trump and the Cops.

Jeerleader 07-30-2020 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Lumara (Post 991105)
This is great! The Dems want to defund the police, so they can have their convention without police protection. That is only fair.

The most hilarious part of this karma overflowing story (according to AP reporting) is that the Milwaukee top cop is considering asking for "federal assistance" to secure the Democrat convention.

I hope police agencies all withdraw mutual support and, in all that is good and proper, the DNC should receive a short "we have more pressing needs than protecting those who detest us, sorry, not sorry" . . . from AG Barr.

Let those despicable, disgusting Democrats stew in the warm Molotovey embrace of their constituents.

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Manitou 07-30-2020 01:17 PM

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Away from the subject, I wonder when scientists are going to develop safe, effective sleeping gas to use against rioters. Heck, I'd settle for laughing gas. Or maybe fart gas, like in that weapon in DESPICABLE ME.

Mellon_Collie 07-30-2020 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by AZRWinger (Post 991159)
Oh ok, so you are dodging the issue of police being stripped of nonlethal force options because there will only be around 300 present at the DNC convention. Brilliant.

Are you going to address the issue of Democrats insisting police either shoot or retreat? Or, are your comprehension skills not engaged?

No I am just not letting your angry little troll brain twist my words nor placate your fantasy world where all Democrats are marched off to the gas chamber.

Mellon_Collie 07-30-2020 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Dog Man (Post 991171)
So the rioters may end up outnumbering the attendees. :thumbsup

I'm starting to believe the Democrats are taking away non-lethal means of stopping riots in the hope that a cop will be forced to actually shoot someone.

We all know they would LOVE to use that against Trump and the Cops.

What else do you see in the future oh Carnac the Magnificent

Dog Man 07-31-2020 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Mellon_Collie (Post 991183)
What else do you see in the future oh Carnac the Magnificent

I was talkin about the present darlin'

But if you want to know what is in the future, it will be socialism, control, and a collapsing economy, when ever Democrats regain total power.

Lumara 07-31-2020 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Dog Man (Post 991219)
But if you want to know what is in the future, it will be socialism, control, and a collapsing economy, when ever Democrats regain total power.

Exactly! :thumbsup The Democrat Party has shown itself to be anti-American, with policies that destroy inner cities, allow illegal immigrants to remain here and collect benefits, that call for open borders and no police. That is the recipe for disaster, yet there are still morons who support this party.

GetAClue 08-01-2020 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Mellon_Collie (Post 991183)
What else do you see in the future oh Carnac the Magnificent

I can tell you what I see. When this inner city crap starts to spill over into the suburbs and rural America, one of two things will happen. Either the governor calls in the National Guard, State Police or which ever police authority it takes to put a stop to it, or those of us that wish to be left alone, will take care of it. And it will not be done nicely. There will be a few less ANTIFA morons running around at that point.

saltwn 08-01-2020 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Lumara (Post 991221)
Exactly! :thumbsup The Democrat Party has shown itself to be anti-American, with policies that destroy inner cities, allow illegal immigrants to remain here and collect benefits, that call for open borders and no police. That is the recipe for disaster, yet there are still morons who support this party.

oh brother :rolls you are deep in it ain't ya, gal. :(
whoo wee. <<face palm>>

saltwn 08-01-2020 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by GetAClue (Post 991267)
I can tell you what I see. When this inner city crap starts to spill over into the suburbs and rural America, one of two things will happen. Either the governor calls in the National Guard, State Police or which ever police authority it takes to put a stop to it, or those of us that wish to be left alone, will take care of it. And it will not be done nicely. There will be a few less ANTIFA morons running around at that point.

what fear mongering is this I hear; golly y'all are easily led.
While your hero threatens democracy you follow his lead as he pretends democrats are dangerous.

saltwn 08-01-2020 09:52 PM

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back to the op. police need money too bad to all refuse any gig like this.
so while y'all are praising them give em a raise.

GetAClue 08-03-2020 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by saltwn (Post 991271)
what fear mongering is this I hear; golly y'all are easily led.
While your hero threatens democracy you follow his lead as he pretends democrats are dangerous.

What fear mongering? ANTIFA and the militant people of BLM are using fear and intimidation to achieve their goals and too many local leaders are buckling to their tactics. That will only last so long. When this nonsense spills into areas where people like me live, it will be stopped, one way or another. I will not sit idly by while a group of criminals burn down my house and neighborhood, and neither will my neighbors. We have the tools and the will to use them to prevent this nonsense.

Dog Man 08-04-2020 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by saltwn (Post 991271)
what fear mongering is this I hear; golly y'all are easily led.
While your hero threatens democracy you follow his lead as he pretends democrats are dangerous.

Portland got rid of their Police violence unit on July 1st. By the end of the month they registered the highest number of homicides in over 30 years.

Who is creating THIS fear? But guess what! There were no arrests, so
the left can tout less crime. :eek

The left has shown us that it doesn't matter if there is crime, just as long as it doesn't show statistically.

If we stop arresting people, crime will go down, right?

GetAClue 08-04-2020 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by saltwn (Post 991273)
back to the op. police need money too bad to all refuse any gig like this.
so while y'all are praising them give em a raise.

Could you translate that gibberish to English please?

saltwn 08-05-2020 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by GetAClue (Post 991305)
What fear mongering? ANTIFA and the militant people of BLM are using fear and intimidation to achieve their goals and too many local leaders are buckling to their tactics. That will only last so long. When this nonsense spills into areas where people like me live, it will be stopped, one way or another. I will not sit idly by while a group of criminals burn down my house and neighborhood, and neither will my neighbors. We have the tools and the will to use them to prevent this nonsense.

just what the orange man and steve bannon want. you to find an excuse to kill a person.

saltwn 08-05-2020 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by GetAClue (Post 991369)
Could you translate that gibberish to English please?

back to the op. police need money too bad to all refuse any gig like this.
so while y'all are praising them give em a raise.

Back to the opening post; all police will not refuse this job. They need money and often do side work.

GetAClue 08-06-2020 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by saltwn (Post 991453)
just what the orange man and steve bannon want. you to find an excuse to kill a person.

You seem to believe that I am actively trying to kill someone, which could not be further from the truth. I am 56 years old and have never attempted nor killed anyone. And in all my years, I have had the opportunity and the justification but found ways to resolve the issue without violence.

What I am talking about is when the mob descends and puts my families lives in imminent danger and the police are not available or able to respond, I may be forced to take matters into my own hands. If that ever comes to pass, I will be prepared. My guess is that if the mob understands this, they will choose NOT to risk their lives in my neighborhood. That works out nicely for both of us.

GetAClue 08-06-2020 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by saltwn (Post 991454)
back to the op. police need money too bad to all refuse any gig like this.
so while y'all are praising them give em a raise.

Is English not your primary language? If not, what is your native language as I am having a hard time trying to decipher what you are attempting to convey with the gibberish that you post.

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Originally Posted by saltwn (Post 991454)
Back to the opening post; all police will not refuse this job. They need money and often do side work.

Sure they do. However, they also turn down work that may be detrimental to their lives or livelihood. In this case, why would the volunteer to protect a group of people that wish to put them out of work?

Dog Man 08-06-2020 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by GetAClue (Post 991305)
What fear mongering? ANTIFA and the militant people of BLM are using fear and intimidation to achieve their goals and too many local leaders are buckling to their tactics. That will only last so long. When this nonsense spills into areas where people like me live, it will be stopped, one way or another. I will not sit idly by while a group of criminals burn down my house and neighborhood, and neither will my neighbors. We have the tools and the will to use them to prevent this nonsense.


It is funny how blind some on the left can be. They scream and yell about violence and intimidation, while supporting people that destroy property, and burn down businesses.


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