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A link below about why Stone is a criminal but hey, trump can do no wrong according to his adoring fans. Anybody notice trump doesn't have Dr. Fauci at his side anymore? Fauci tells trump things he doesn't want to here. Here we are in a full blown pandemic and this trump character is flying off to rallies and pardoning criminals. He cares not a bit about anyone but himself and staying in office. Can't wait to read what his niece says in here book about him.



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before he was even sentenced. I guess this is payment for being loyal to Trump.

Salty, Stone was sentenced. To 3 1/2 years minimum in prison. Get your facts straight before you sound off.

Yeah, I know. Salty and facts??? Who am I kidding?


Look...;

It is actually quite brave and unique for the President to do this now. He could have waited, and like all Presidents, done the deed after the election. Instead he did it before voters made their choice. So instead, like so many end of term Presidents, of being an act for which he would not be held accountable he has given the public the right to chose whether his was a good call to commute the sentence or not.

Keep in mind, Trump could have pardoned Stone. Making all of the court actions mute. Instead, Stone is still guilty as charged. So Stone, who was denied the right to speak publically about his innocence, can continue his appeals and be free to speak about his case in public.

A master stroke of political genius for Trump. And a chance for Stone to clear his name. If that is possible. After all, the entire case against him was predicated on a hoax.
The left and the press (but I repeat myself) can make of this whatever. At the end of it, Trump outsmarted them. Because the more they whine about it, the less credibility their arguments.
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Salty, Stone was sentenced. To 3 1/2 years minimum in prison. Get your facts straight before you sound off.

Yeah, I know. Salty and facts??? Who am I kidding?


Look...;

It is actually quite brave and unique for the President to do this now. He could have waited, and like all Presidents, done the deed after the election. Instead he did it before voters made their choice. So instead, like so many end of term Presidents, of being an act for which he would not be held accountable he has given the public the right to chose whether his was a good call to commute the sentence or not.

Keep in mind, Trump could have pardoned Stone. Making all of the court actions mute. Instead, Stone is still guilty as charged. So Stone, who was denied the right to speak publically about his innocence, can continue his appeals and be free to speak about his case in public.

A master stroke of political genius for Trump. And a chance for Stone to clear his name. If that is possible. After all, the entire case against him was predicated on a hoax.
The left and the press (but I repeat myself) can make of this whatever. At the end of it, Trump outsmarted them. Because the more they whine about it, the less credibility their arguments.
I believe Trump didn't pardon Stone to make it more difficult for partisan state prosecutors to file charges against him for essentially the same offenses.

Also, don't be surprised if Federal prosecutors seek to impose some sort of gag order on Stone during his appeal. Can't have him running around defending himself.
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Salty, Stone was sentenced. To 3 1/2 years minimum in prison. Get your facts straight before you sound off.

Yeah, I know. Salty and facts??? Who am I kidding?


Look...;

It is actually quite brave and unique for the President to do this now. He could have waited, and like all Presidents, done the deed after the election. Instead he did it before voters made their choice. So instead, like so many end of term Presidents, of being an act for which he would not be held accountable he has given the public the right to chose whether his was a good call to commute the sentence or not.

Keep in mind, Trump could have pardoned Stone. Making all of the court actions mute. Instead, Stone is still guilty as charged. So Stone, who was denied the right to speak publically about his innocence, can continue his appeals and be free to speak about his case in public.

A master stroke of political genius for Trump. And a chance for Stone to clear his name. If that is possible. After all, the entire case against him was predicated on a hoax.
The left and the press (but I repeat myself) can make of this whatever. At the end of it, Trump outsmarted them. Because the more they whine about it, the less credibility their arguments.
I guess I convoluted that with knowing trump would pardon him. so why has he not pardoned his long time lawyer cohen? because he didn't lie for him and get caught
stone was pardoned by the man he lied to protect
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I guess I convoluted that with knowing trump would pardon him. so why has he not pardoned his long time lawyer cohen? because he didn't lie for him and get caught
stone was pardoned by the man he lied to protect
ONE MORE TIME!!!
Roger Stone was not pardoned.

His sentence was commuted.

That means his guilt remains for now but he won't serve jail time. The difference is significant in law. Huge actually.
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Today I watched Fox News Sunday with Chris Wallace.

Ordinarily, I like Chris Wallace; he is usually a straight shooter--just as hard on left-wing guests as he is on right-wing guests.

Today, however, I was rather disturbed by his regular references to Roger Stone as a "friend" of Donald Trump: Although these references were technically true, they left the impression that their friendship was behind the commutation.

Perhaps it was. And perhaps it wasn't. (The president says that Roger Stone was treated quite unfairly--with this, presumably, being the reason for the commutation.)

I think it would really be better to leave unimplied that which one cannot prove...
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ONE MORE TIME!!!
Roger Stone was not pardoned.

His sentence was commuted.

That means his guilt remains for now but he won't serve jail time. The difference is significant in law. Huge actually.
Yes, he remains guilty of lying to Congress....

You or I would be in jail for that but, he's Donald's buddy so he gets to walk....

Another example of "who you know" and how different standards can exist...
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Yes, he remains guilty of lying to Congress....

You or I would be in jail for that but, he's Donald's buddy so he gets to walk....

Another example of "who you know" and how different standards can exist...
False...

Most people who lie to Congress do NIT get prosecuted for it...

ESPECIALLY when they are conveniently "friends" of a certain party...

Notice How Democrats are Never Indicted?

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Clapper lied to Congress, as did Brennan and Comey, who can only remember things when he has a $15 million book to write. McCabe lied to the IG. Barack Obama weaponized federal agencies to attack his political opponents. Hillary sold her office as Secretary of State for money. Strzok disregarded his oath of office and used his power to attempt to destroy Trump. In fact, he guaranteed he’d destroy Trump. Then in testimony before Congress, he smirked with more arrogance than any Covington kid could ever muster. Yet, no arrests.

Hillary destroyed her phones and her illegal server, and Comey leaked classified FBI memos to impel the appointment of his best bro as Special Counsel. Again, no indictments.

Did I mention the newly elected anti-Semitic Islamic congresswoman who married her brother to commit immigration fraud?

Apparently, in America today the only people who should fear prosecution are those who disagree with the “ones we’ve been waiting for” because if you’re a Democrat, you can’t get arrested in this town.

4 Different Lies James Clapper Told About Lying To Congress

Former CIA director John Brennan caught lying to Congress

IG Report Shows Comey Lied To Congress About FBI Investigation Of Trump Campaign

Anyone remember THIS little nugget?...

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False...

Most people who lie to Congress do NIT get prosecuted for it...

ESPECIALLY when they are conveniently "friends" of a certain party...

Well, the jury in Roger Stone's trial felt differently.....

They convicted him of several counts of lying and gave him a sentence that Trump did not pardon but, commuted....

He remains guilty of the crimes he was accused of .....

I understand your version but, there are others who may disagree with us depending on what ever side of the aisle they may be sitting.....

Here is one version....

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...IRholhxq610XzL
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Well, the jury in Roger Stone's trial felt differently.....

They convicted him of several counts of lying and gave him a sentence that Trump did not pardon but, commuted....

He remains guilty of the crimes he was accused of .....
The ONLY REASON there was a jury, in the first place, was because the deep state a-holes indicted him for things they KNEW he was NOT GUILTY of...He should NEVER been in front of a jury to begin with!!!!... mad

May I also remind you the "guilty" findings was already baked in the cake...

Roger Stone jury foreperson's anti-Trump social media posts surface after she defends DOJ prosecutors

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Former Memphis City Schools Board President Tomeka Hart revealed Wednesday that she was the foreperson of the jury that convicted former Trump adviser Roger Stone on obstruction charges last year -- and soon afterward, her history of Democratic activism and a string of her anti-Trump, left-wing social media posts came to light.

Hart even posted specifically about the Stone case before she was selected to sit on the jury, as she retweeted an argument mocking those who considered Stone's dramatic arrest in a predawn raid by a federal tactical team to be excessive force. She also suggested President Trump and his supporters are racist and praised the investigation conducted by Special Counsel Robert Mueller, which ultimately led to Stone's prosecution.
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