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Old 06-16-2020, 12:13 PM
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At what point do you start holding Mr. Brooks responsible for his actions? Had he complied with the officers, he would have been booked for DUI and released with a future court date. Instead, he chose to fight with the officers, steal a weapon and fire it at them.

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It's starting to sound as if there are people out there that believe, NO ONE should be responsible for their actions. Well, no criminals anyway

Cops will always have to be responsible.

Personally I think if a community doesn't want cops, they should vote them out, and let what happens, happen.
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At what point do you start holding Mr. Brooks responsible for his actions? Had he complied with the officers, he would have been booked for DUI and released with a future court date. Instead, he chose to fight with the officers, steal a weapon and fire it at them.

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He is responsible for the consequences of his actions, which means that he would have been charged with resisting arrest and possibly others additional crimes. Shooting him in the back is not “holding him responsible.” They should have let him go. They had his car and knew who he was. They could easily have arrested him later. There was no justification for gunning him down in cold blood.
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He is responsible for the consequences of his actions, which means that he would have been charged with resisting arrest and possibly others additional crimes. Shooting him in the back is not “holding him responsible.” They should have let him go. They had his car and knew who he was. They could easily have arrested him later. There was no justification for gunning him down in cold blood.
I agree with that. But that little thing about him ( in the video ) turning around like he was going to fire at the cops, that will get you shot every time, and he should have known that.

I'll bet if he had not none that, we would never have heard about this incident.

Can you agree with that?
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Rolfe (the guy who shot Brooks) still had his taser, but chose to use lethal force instead of using it.
I had not heard that, however if you are insinuating that the second officer should have engaged in some sort of "fair fight", you are very wrong. Rule #1 of fighting: If you find yourself in a fair fight, you're tactics suck.
If what we have been shown is correct (questionable with today's media) Brooks took a weapon from a police officer, tried to use it on a police officer, and was shot for doing so. I'll be waiting until the investigation is complete before saying for certain, but if the above is true the only person responsible for Brooks death is Brooks.
You try to use a weapon on a cop, you're going to get shot. I'll back the cop on that every time.
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He is responsible for the consequences of his actions, which means that he would have been charged with resisting arrest and possibly others additional crimes. Shooting him in the back is not “holding him responsible.” They should have let him go. They had his car and knew who he was. They could easily have arrested him later. There was no justification for gunning him down in cold blood.
It appeared that they were going to easily arrest him then, except that after he gave the impression that he was cooperative, he began fighting the officers and stole one of their weapons and then attempted to fire it at them. THAT is what him shot.

Had he simply ran off, they most likely would have just met him later at his home.
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He is responsible for the consequences of his actions, which means that he would have been charged with resisting arrest and possibly others additional crimes. Shooting him in the back is not “holding him responsible.” They should have let him go. They had his car and knew who he was. They could easily have arrested him later. There was no justification for gunning him down in cold blood.
1. The police are not and should not be in the habit of "They should have let him go".
2. According to what we know so far he was shot because he tried to use a police officers weapon on a police officer. Further evidence that he is a danger and shouldn't be "let go".
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There was a series of decisions that lead to the death of Rayshard Brooks.
Rayshard chose to get drunk. That was Rayshard's decision.
Rayshard chose to drive drunk. That was Rayshard's decision.
Rayshard chose to resist arrest. That was Rayshard's decision.
Rayshard chose to seize the taser from the officer. That was Rayshard's decision.
Rayshard chose to point (and probably fire) the taser at the officer. That was Rayshard's decision.
Garrett chose to fire his service weapon at Rayshard. That was Garrett's decision.

If any one of the first five decisions had been made differently, that last decision never would have had to happen. Yet somehow, the media is portraying this as racist and police brutality.
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Another good man killed by cops? Such a sweet man, celebrated his daughters birthday just hours before he was gunned down by Police.

He was going to take her skating the next day.

I guess he should have stayed in prison where he was safe.

No mention of his 7 year sentence.

No mention of his Cruelty of Children,

No mention of his Battery on a family member.

No mention of his false imprisonment.

No mention of the long list of violent crimes, resisting arrest, or pointing an object at a cop.

Just a mention of him celebrating his daughters birthday. what a sweet guy
Someone who resists arrest, assaults an officer, and steals an officer's weapon is not a victim of police brutality.Nor does he deserve anyone's sympathy and hopefully and the scumbag sympathizers who looted and burned down the Wendy's are rounded up and tried for arson. and theft.
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He is responsible for the consequences of his actions, which means that he would have been charged with resisting arrest and possibly others additional crimes. Shooting him in the back is not “holding him responsible.” They should have let him go. They had his car and knew who he was. They could easily have arrested him later. There was no justification for gunning him down in cold blood.
There was nothing cold blooded about what the cops did.The man resisted arrest, took an officer's weapon, assaulted officers and pointed a weapon at one of the officers. Only a ****en retard would say hey should let this person who obviously dangerous run amok.
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I had not heard that, however if you are insinuating that the second officer should have engaged in some sort of "fair fight", you are very wrong. Rule #1 of fighting: If you find yourself in a fair fight, you're tactics suck.
If what we have been shown is correct (questionable with today's media) Brooks took a weapon from a police officer, tried to use it on a police officer, and was shot for doing so. I'll be waiting until the investigation is complete before saying for certain, but if the above is true the only person responsible for Brooks death is Brooks.
You try to use a weapon on a cop, you're going to get shot. I'll back the cop on that every time.
Sorry, but lethal force is not an appropriate response to non-lethal force.
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