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I think the old guy WANTED to take a fall. That cop did not push him hard enough for him to fall the way he did. The problem was, the guy did not know how to fall correctly, and ended up hurting himself.
To me it looks like a fake fall that went bad. 75 YO agitator deliberately stepped in front of a couple hundred LEO on the move. 75 YO gets a one finger push. 75 YO stumbles and hits head.
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Terrible. Should never have happened. However, the Chief of Police is opening an investigation into the incident to hold the offending officer accountable. Until we condemn all police, let's wait and see how this incident is resolved.
If its an internal investigation, don't expect much.....
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To me it looks like a fake fall that went bad. 75 YO agitator deliberately stepped in front of a couple hundred LEO on the move. 75 YO gets a one finger push. 75 YO stumbles and hits head.



Really, is that the best you got......
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He peacefully protests for justice.
Like Kapernick.
To declare that Colin Kapernick did something unobjectionable--"peaceful"--is to (intentionally, perhaps?) ignore the fact that taking a knee, in this context, signifies mourning and sadness--presumably, as regarding a (supposedly) "racist" America.

But the left typically believes that those of us who do not view America as being fundamentally flawed--"racist"--are, ourselves, racist.
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A team of well armed and well(?) trained police do not need to push heads into concrete to get "compliance from 75 yr old men or 16 yr old girls




So if someone "defies police instructions" then they "get" just rewards." = a busted skull or dead?

I didn't know peacefully "defying police instructions" was constitutional grounds for a possible instant death sentence.

and that there was NO other way for police to "enforce the law" other than threaten a busted skull or death.
Is that what you believe GetAClue that there's NO OTHER WAY for police to "enforce the law" laws set up to protect ALL the people and their rights?
It seems as though you want to attribute certain privileges to people based on the fact that they are protesting vs any other actions. I don't care what you are doing, when you are told to vacate the area, you do it. If you defy, no matter how peaceful you are, you are placing yourself in danger.

It would be one thing if he were simply not physically able to comply, but that was not the case. He CHOSE to defy a lawful order thereby putting himself into the situation. Again, stupid decision. His rights don't extend to the exclusion of others rights to NOT have rioting and looting break out in the area. The police were enforcing a curfew and this idiot decided to defy it.
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If its an internal investigation, don't expect much.....
Should we just execute him now then? What would you recommend we do instead?
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It seems as though you want to attribute certain privileges to people based on the fact that they are protesting vs any other actions. I don't care what you are doing, when you are told to vacate the area, you do it. If you defy, no matter how peaceful you are, you are placing yourself in danger.

It would be one thing if he were simply not physically able to comply, but that was not the case. He CHOSE to defy a lawful order thereby putting himself into the situation. Again, stupid decision. His rights don't extend to the exclusion of others rights to NOT have rioting and looting break out in the area. The police were enforcing a curfew and this idiot decided to defy it.
If you're not violently breaking the law.
How is it possible that you are placing yourself in physical danger, when 99.9% of police are good?

and i ask you again
Do you believe that there's NO OTHER WAY but VIOLENCE for police to "enforce the law"?
Laws set up to protect ALL the people's physical safety and constitutional rights?
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Should we just execute him now then? What would you recommend we do instead?
Time off, get months of retraining and put a letter in his file with all the details....

Get rid of internal investigations that do absolutely nothing....
Get rid of qualified immunity for cops and judges....


That would be a good start...
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Time off, get months of retraining and put a letter in his file with all the details....

Get rid of internal investigations that do absolutely nothing....
Get rid of qualified immunity for cops and judges....


That would be a good start...
None of those suggestions will appease the radicals, much less be effective.

However, You have presented some good ideas here.

If we could get rid of qualified immunity and internal investigations for members of Congress, I believe it would do far more good for the nation.
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