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Old 06-06-2020, 03:03 AM
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Donald Trump orders 9,500 US troops to leave Germany

Just JFC, OK?

what a bastard.
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Old 06-06-2020, 11:29 AM
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This is a good thing. US taxpayers don't need to constantly provide defense for other countries. Those countries need to start taking care of their own defense.
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Obama to recall US troops from Europe

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President Barack Obama has decided to reduce the US military’s permanent presence in Europe, in a move that goes some of the way towards enacting long-delayed Bush-era cuts.

...The decision continues a US drawdown from the continent that has seen a force of 300,000 during the cold war fall to fewer than 80,000 today.

It also fits in with Mr Obama’s argument that the country’s allies should take greater responsibility for regional security, as in the case of the Nato operation in Libya.
So when Obama's argument is "country’s allies should take greater responsibility for regional security", he's a "god"....When Trump does the same thing, he's a "bastard"...
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I'm kind of thinking that the US should remove most troops from western Europe (and elsewhere). They (Western Europe) are more than capable for their own defense of perceived danger. The US can always mobilize military force if our allies need it.

Serious question for you saltwn..............
What if all the US overseas troops were eliminated and those same monies were used for universal healthcare, would you think the US president/congress that did that was a bastard?
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Troops should be systematically removed from the around the world.
I applaud when any president, D or R, does it.
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This has been a long ongoing, and long needed reduction. At one time the US had over 100,000 troops in Europe, mostly in Germany during peacetime. It has long since passed the time they needed to be withdrawn. Good for any president that reduces our European footprint.
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Default Re: Donald Trump orders 9,500 US troops to leave Germany

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Obama to recall US troops from Europe

So when Obama's argument is "country’s allies should take greater responsibility for regional security", he's a "god"....When Trump does the same thing, he's a "bastard"...
I don't think Trump is getting much blow back from this move redd….

A small fraction might be whining but I think the majority don't have any problems with bringing troops back home...
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Obama to recall US troops from Europe

So when Obama's argument is "country’s allies should take greater responsibility for regional security", he's a "god"....When Trump does the same thing, he's a "bastard"...
drawdown vs leaving out of the blue
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I'm kind of thinking that the US should remove most troops from western Europe (and elsewhere). They (Western Europe) are more than capable for their own defense of perceived danger. The US can always mobilize military force if our allies need it.

Serious question for you saltwn..............
What if all the US overseas troops were eliminated and those same monies were used for universal healthcare, would you think the US president/congress that did that was a bastard?
Like we didn't need marines in Benghazi right. It still takes time to move troops.
I don't agree we need to get out of everywhere.

Some places our presence matters and some we do need to leave from sticking our noses where we don't belong.
I disagree we should just pull out of Germany. Or Korea for that matter. Or from protecting Israel (shield) but Afghanistan probably yes. South America or other American countries we should covertly protect but not let politicians mess with the basic governing unless a threat...
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Why should US troops be in Germany?

This doesn't remove them all, about 25,000 will still remain. You are getting your panties in a knot over what? The fact that they are continuing to draw down troops in foreign nations, or the fact that Trump's name was connected to it?

I think we all know the answer.
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