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mr wonder 06-05-2020 08:07 PM

Rosenstein admits Russia collusion was baseless, washes hands of illegal FISA warrant
 
Rosenstein admits Russia collusion was baseless, washes hands of illegal FISA warrants
Lindsey Graham: (35:02)
I am saying in January the 4th, 2017, the FBI had discounted Flynn, there was no evidence that Carter Page worked with the Russians, the dossier was a bunch of garbage and Papadopoulos is all over the place, not knowing he’s being recorded, denying working with the Russians, nobody’s ever been prosecuted for working with the Russians. The point is the whole concept that the campaign was colluding with the Russians, there was no there there in August, 2017. Do you agree with that general statement or not?
Rod Rosenstein: (35:39)
I agree with that general statement.
https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts...-investigation
Former Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein said on Wednesday that he would not have signed off on a final warrant application of former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page if he had known the information that would be in a watchdog report.
Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) asked Rosenstein if he, in retrospect, would have signed off on the final renewal of the Page warrant application knowing what he knows now.
"No, I would not," Rosenstein told members of the Judiciary Committee.
Rosenstein, who resigned from the Justice Department last year, signed off on the final warrant application into Page.
He was interviewed as part of Inspector General Michael Horowitz's report on the Page applications, where he found 17 significant errors and omissions in the initial warrant applications and subsequent follow-ups.
Horowitz’s report found that Rosenstein and other department officials “did not have accurate and complete information at the time they approved them.” link
Because the FBI and others were feeding him BS "intel".


Russiagate was BS from the start. the democrats and the MSM wasted time and embarrassed themselves. and the FBI and various portions of the Obama Admin have in fact committed unethical and likely criminal acts.

cnredd 06-06-2020 12:03 AM

Re: Rosenstein admits Russia collusion was baseless, washes hands of illegal FISA war
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mr wonder (Post 988753)
Russiagate was BS from the start. the democrats and the MSM wasted time and embarrassed themselves. and the FBI and various portions of the Obama Admin have in fact committed unethical and likely criminal acts.

Obviously...But I fear the "Deep State Wall" will be just as strong as the "Blue Wall"...:yes :(

saltwn 06-06-2020 02:46 AM

Re: Rosenstein admits Russia collusion was baseless, washes hands of illegal FISA war
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mr wonder (Post 988753)
Rosenstein admits Russia collusion was baseless, washes hands of illegal FISA warrants
Lindsey Graham: (35:02)
I am saying in January the 4th, 2017, the FBI had discounted Flynn, there was no evidence that Carter Page worked with the Russians, the dossier was a bunch of garbage and Papadopoulos is all over the place, not knowing he’s being recorded, denying working with the Russians, nobody’s ever been prosecuted for working with the Russians. The point is the whole concept that the campaign was colluding with the Russians, there was no there there in August, 2017. Do you agree with that general statement or not?
Rod Rosenstein: (35:39)
I agree with that general statement.
https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts...-investigation
Former Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein said on Wednesday that he would not have signed off on a final warrant application of former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page if he had known the information that would be in a watchdog report.
Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) asked Rosenstein if he, in retrospect, would have signed off on the final renewal of the Page warrant application knowing what he knows now.
"No, I would not," Rosenstein told members of the Judiciary Committee.
Rosenstein, who resigned from the Justice Department last year, signed off on the final warrant application into Page.
He was interviewed as part of Inspector General Michael Horowitz's report on the Page applications, where he found 17 significant errors and omissions in the initial warrant applications and subsequent follow-ups.
Horowitz’s report found that Rosenstein and other department officials “did not have accurate and complete information at the time they approved them.” link
Because the FBI and others were feeding him BS "intel".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBDkqQpSENY

Russiagate was BS from the start. the democrats and the MSM wasted time and embarrassed themselves. and the FBI and various portions of the Obama Admin have in fact committed unethical and likely criminal acts.

Looks like Rosenstein knew nothing; FBI kept him in the dark:

https://www.google.com/search?q=ross...hrome&ie=UTF-8

so his saying there was or wasn't reasonable proof to further an investigation, was based on lack of knowledge of it.

Constant_Slothrop 06-06-2020 09:10 AM

Re: Rosenstein admits Russia collusion was baseless, washes hands of illegal FISA war
 
The problem remains the singular effort to make the non-legal and vaguely defined term “collusion” the be-all an end-all standard of corrupt behavior when it comes to Trump and the Russians.

If you focus instead on the facts, it remains true that Trump advisors repeatedly sought the assistance of the Russian government during the campaign, that the Russian government organized and implemented multiple criminal conspiracies to help Trump get elected, that the Trump campaign welcomed and used that criminal support during the campaign, that Trump and many of his top advisors lied about their interactions with and the crimes committed by the Russians and that Trump tried to block investigations of any of this. That’s profoundly corrupt, whatever term you choose to use to describe it.

mr wonder 06-06-2020 10:13 AM

Re: Rosenstein admits Russia collusion was baseless, washes hands of illegal FISA war
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Constant_Slothrop (Post 988771)
The problem remains the singular effort to make the non-legal and vaguely defined term “collusion” the be-all an end-all standard of corrupt behavior when it comes to Trump and the Russians.

If you focus instead on the facts, it remains true that Trump advisors repeatedly sought the assistance of the Russian government during the campaign, that the Russian government organized and implemented multiple criminal conspiracies to help Trump get elected, that the Trump campaign welcomed and used that criminal support during the campaign, that Trump and many of his top advisors lied about their interactions with and the crimes committed by the Russians and that Trump tried to block investigations of any of this. That’s profoundly corrupt, whatever term you choose to use to describe it.

Here's an interview with Arron Matte leftwing nation mag reporter who focused on the facts. link link.
Also here's Glen Greenwald on the further FBI corruption Link
they breakdown every so-called fact you make.

as Van Jones said candidly russiagate is a "nothing burger"
always has been man.

Constant_Slothrop 06-06-2020 11:52 AM

Re: Rosenstein admits Russia collusion was baseless, washes hands of illegal FISA war
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mr wonder (Post 988773)
Here's an interview with Arron Matte leftwing nation mag reporter who focused on the facts. link link.
Also here's Glen Greenwald on the further FBI corruption Link
they breakdown every so-called fact you make.

as Van Jones said candidly russiagate is a "nothing burger"
always has been man.

Every fact I posted is true. Tell me what specific facts in my prior post are false.

(And, by the way, Van Jones has said repeatedly that the Russia investigation was serious and must be pursued, but that Democrats were expecting too much if they thought it would get Trump out of office. He’s been pretty clear that the comments he’s made were downplaying the effect, not the facts behind, the investigation.)

cnredd 06-06-2020 12:04 PM

Re: Rosenstein admits Russia collusion was baseless, washes hands of illegal FISA war
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Constant_Slothrop (Post 988771)
The problem remains the singular effort to make the non-legal and vaguely defined term “collusion” the be-all an end-all standard of corrupt behavior when it comes to Trump and the Russians.

If you focus instead on the facts, it remains true that Trump advisors repeatedly sought the assistance of the Russian government during the campaign

False....

The allegations made by the Deep State were based on conversations between Trump's advisors and Russia AFTER the election...Which is something EVERY President-elect and their staff has done...:yes

The whole Flynn setup was based on conversations he had with the Russian ambassador starting on DECEMBER 22...Well over a month after the election and less than a month before inauguration...

Constant_Slothrop 06-06-2020 12:50 PM

Re: Rosenstein admits Russia collusion was baseless, washes hands of illegal FISA war
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cnredd (Post 988782)
False....

The allegations made by the Deep State were based on conversations between Trump's advisors and Russia AFTER the election...Which is something EVERY President-elect and their staff has done...:yes

The whole Flynn setup was based on conversations he had with the Russian ambassador starting on DECEMBER 22...Well over a month after the election and less than a month before inauguration...

It’s like you people have collective amnesia or something. Does the phrase ”if it’s what you say, I love it” ring a bell?

cnredd 06-06-2020 01:03 PM

Re: Rosenstein admits Russia collusion was baseless, washes hands of illegal FISA war
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Constant_Slothrop (Post 988783)
It’s like you people have collective amnesia or something. Does the phrase ”if it’s what you say, I love it” ring a bell?

Yes it does...and there is ZERO problems with having foreign reveal information on an American candidate...It wasn't the Russian GOVERNMENT...It was a Russian CITIZEN (a prosecutor who had connections through American music mogul Rob Goldstone)...And it was all a ruse anyway...There wasn't anything to it...

UNLIKE the Clinton Campaign paying for ACTUAL Russian misinformation from a foreigner (Steele ring a bell?)...:wave

Constant_Slothrop 06-06-2020 01:19 PM

Re: Rosenstein admits Russia collusion was baseless, washes hands of illegal FISA war
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cnredd (Post 988784)
Yes it does...and there is ZERO problems with having foreign reveal information on an American candidate...It wasn't the Russian GOVERNMENT...It was a Russian CITIZEN (a prosecutor who had connections through American music mogul Rob Goldstone)...And it was all a ruse anyway...There wasn't anything to it...

UNLIKE the Clinton Campaign paying for ACTUAL Russian misinformation from a foreigner (Steele ring a bell?)...:wave

Uh, here’s part of the first email from Goldstone to Don Jr. (bold and italics added):

Quote:

The Crown prosecutor of Russia met with his father Aras this morning and in their meeting offered to provide the Trump campaign with some official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia and would be very useful to your father.

This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government's support for Mr. Trump - helped along by Aras and Emin.
Here’s another in the string in which he tried to set up the specific Trump tower meeting:

Quote:

Emin asked that I schedule a meeting with you and The Russian government attorney who is flying over from Moscow for this Thursday.
What is it you were saying about the difference between the support of a government versus a citizen?

https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2017...r-full-emails/


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