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Old 05-10-2020, 12:01 AM
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In the Reade case, she claimed for over 25 years that there was no assault and explicitly told people that there was no assault, before changing her story earlier this year. That is far more contradictory than a lack of corroboration.
And that claim comes from where?...
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Old 05-10-2020, 08:20 AM
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And that claim comes from where?...
All of the reporting on her case? Have you not actually read any of the details of her claims?
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In the Reade case, she claimed for over 25 years that there was no assault and explicitly told people that there was no assault, before changing her story earlier this year. That is far more contradictory than a lack of corroboration.
Again, avoid looking at the evidence of Biden's sexual assault and focus on contradictory evidence. Wow, how clever.

Where is the automatic credibility assigned to the accuser so prevalent in the Kavanaugh controversy? Where is the sympathetic explanation for the victim not reporting the crime? Holes and inconsistencies didn't prevent Democrats from pronouncing Kavanaugh guilty but now Teflon Joe can't even be investigated.
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Again, avoid looking at the evidence of Biden's sexual assault and focus on contradictory evidence. Wow, how clever.

Where is the automatic credibility assigned to the accuser so prevalent in the Kavanaugh controversy? Where is the sympathetic explanation for the victim not reporting the crime? Holes and inconsistencies didn't prevent Democrats from pronouncing Kavanaugh guilty but now Teflon Joe can't even be investigated.
As I said, Reade did not simply “not report“ the crime. She told a completely different story for over 25 years and told multiple people that there was no assault. I do find it funny, however, how you guys are so quick to compare this to the Kavanaugh case, but never mention the numerous far more credible claims against Trump for sexual assault.
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As I said, Reade did not simply “not report“ the crime. She told a completely different story for over 25 years and told multiple people that there was no assault. I do find it funny, however, how you guys are so quick to compare this to the Kavanaugh case, but never mention the numerous far more credible claims against Trump for sexual assault.
I find it funny but so typically hypocritical that you want to avoid examining the evidence of Biden's sexual assault while Democrats embraced Kavanaugh's accuser as a courageous saint despite the obvious gaping holes in her story.

Kavanaugh's accuser claimed seeing him on TV brought back the memories of his molestation but with huge gaps in time, location and witnesses. Nonetheless multiple Democrat Senators marched to the podium pronouncing the accusations true. Kavanaugh was the subject of multiple FBI background checks but "justice" demanded another investigation.

But accusations against Biden cannot be investigated, instead it's attack the accuser. We have contemporaneous accounts of the victim having told other people of the assault. But that's not credible because the victim has told different stories over the years. It couldn't be that she was ashamed or intimidated by accusing a powerful Senator who engages in vicious partisan attacks and is a facile liar. Naw, the accusation must be made up.
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I find it funny but so typically hypocritical that you want to avoid examining the evidence of Biden's sexual assault while Democrats embraced Kavanaugh's accuser as a courageous saint despite the obvious gaping holes in her story.

Kavanaugh's accuser claimed seeing him on TV brought back the memories of his molestation but with huge gaps in time, location and witnesses. Nonetheless multiple Democrat Senators marched to the podium pronouncing the accusations true. Kavanaugh was the subject of multiple FBI background checks but "justice" demanded another investigation.

But accusations against Biden cannot be investigated, instead it's attack the accuser. We have contemporaneous accounts of the victim having told other people of the assault. But that's not credible because the victim has told different stories over the years. It couldn't be that she was ashamed or intimidated by accusing a powerful Senator who engages in vicious partisan attacks and is a facile liar. Naw, the accusation must be made up.
And still no mention of Trump, who has faced far more credible allegations of assault (and who even confessed to it on a hot microphone).
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And still no mention of Trump, who has faced far more credible allegations of assault (and who even confessed to it on a hot microphone).
Not everyone shares your obsessive hatred of Trump and your fondness for whataboutism as a deflection. Of course during the impeachment festival of hate any mention of Biden's corrupt demand to fire the Ukrainian prosecutor responsible for investigating his son was dismissed with 2 wrongs don't make a right. So, applying the same standard...
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Not everyone shares your obsessive hatred of Trump and your fondness for whataboutism as a deflection. Of course during the impeachment festival of hate any mention of Biden's corrupt demand to fire the Ukrainian prosecutor responsible for investigating his son was dismissed with 2 wrongs don't make a right. So, applying the same standard...
At some point, you guys need to give up on this Trump fantasy world you live in. There was nothing "corrupt" about Biden's calls for the firing of the Ukrainian prosecutor. It was US policy to have him removed and the EU and IMF were trying to force Ukraine to do the same. In fact, the removal of Shokin increased the chances that Burisma would be investigated, but you clowns are oblivious to reality.
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At some point, you guys need to give up on this Trump fantasy world you live in. There was nothing "corrupt" about Biden's calls for the firing of the Ukrainian prosecutor. It was US policy to have him removed and the EU and IMF were trying to force Ukraine to do the same. In fact, the removal of Shokin increased the chances that Burisma would be investigated, but you clowns are oblivious to reality.
Conditioning US aid on firing a prosecutor in direct service of a conflict of interest was never "official US policy". That is textbook criminal corruption. Even the Obama administration recognized Biden's conflict of interest but took no action to rein him in.

Using US aid to extort firing a prosecutor who threatened Biden's corrupt scheme made it more likely the scam would be investigated. That is patently false. But just claim anyone who points out the absurdity as living in a fantasy.

Claiming firing the prosecutor "made it more likely" Biden's criminal activity would be investigated is classic spin. The claim can neither be proven or disproved making it meaningless.
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