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The left has been saying that Trump is acting like a king since he has been in office. But he CAN'T be a king with our constitution.

But NOW the left WANTS him to have the power of a king, and trample the constitution and states rights.

Terrorists couldn’t do any better to tank the U.S. economy, take away our freedoms, and cause mass hysteria among the American people.
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The left has been saying that Trump is acting like a king since he has been in office. But he CAN'T be a king with our constitution.

But NOW the left WANTS him to have the power of a king, and trample the constitution and states rights.
Nobody asked for or wanted a king, we just wanted him to be competent during a global pandemic/economic crisis.

Guess that was too much to ask.
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Nobody asked for or wanted a king, we just wanted him to be competent during a global pandemic/economic crisis.

Guess that was too much to ask.
So what more do you want him to do? The left wants him to institute a National Shutdown, only a King could do that.

He does not have that power over states.
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“It’s often the case that governmental power expands in time of emergency and doesn’t revert fully back to the status quo after the emergency has passed,” Richard Primus, a constitutional law scholar at the University of Michigan wrote in an email.
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So what more do you want him to do? The left wants him to institute a National Shutdown, only a King could do that.

He does not have that power over states.
maybe not divert medical equipment hospitals in the states have purchased?
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Nobody asked for or wanted a king, we just wanted him to be competent during a global pandemic/economic crisis.
Guess that was too much to ask.
The thing is Trump's detractors are talking out of both sides of their mouths.
one moment they want him to "take charge" and take over all the coordination nationally.
the next day they complain that the feds have control over supplies, and are telling the states and localities what to do. Or he's doing it "wrong"


I don't think Trump has made all the right moves during this thing but i can't think of anyone who has. not state officials or big businesses, hospitals or 1st responders. Everyone's fumbled the ball a bit. But i do think most people are trying to help including Trump.

Personally I want Trump and everyone to succeed in dealing with this thing. I'm not sure how nitpicking every fumble
and griping about even the helpful actions are supposed to move us away from trouble.


But Hey, maybe you're right,
it always helps folks in a dire medical situation to have a family member on the sideline griping no matter what's done. When the one responsible is trying to help the health of a sick person the best they can. Being told that they should be doing it differently and better, that they should talk to docs more , that they should believe the docs that they shouldn't trust docs and get 2nd an 3rd opinion. that they got to hospital to slowly... that they should have seen the signs long ago. that they should have had the other kind of insurance.. That they should have their brother do that. and why did they let their brother do that ... etc etc

the contant griping and complaining from the sideline makes the sick and dying much better I guess.

I'm not saying that Trump and others shouldn't be criticized but it should be somewhat objective and reasonable and with a thought of HELPING him do his job. rather than what comes across as overriding personal animosity for Trump. with trailing 2ndary concern for dealing with the issue.
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The thing is Trump's detractors are talking out of both sides of their mouths.
one moment they want him to "take charge" and take over all the coordination nationally.
the next day they complain that the feds have control over supplies, and are telling the states and localities what to do. Or he's doing it "wrong"


I don't think Trump has made all the right moves during this thing but i can't think of anyone who has. not state officials or big businesses, hospitals or 1st responders. Everyone's fumbled the ball a bit. But i do think most people are trying to help including Trump.

Personally I want Trump and everyone to succeed in dealing with this thing. I'm not sure how nitpicking every fumble
and griping about even the helpful actions are supposed to move us away from trouble.


But Hey, maybe you're right,
it always helps folks in a dire medical situation to have a family member on the sideline griping no matter what's done. When the one responsible is trying to help the health of a sick person the best they can. Being told that they should be doing it differently and better, that they should talk to docs more , that they should believe the docs that they shouldn't trust docs and get 2nd an 3rd opinion. that they got to hospital to slowly... that they should have seen the signs long ago. that they should have had the other kind of insurance.. That they should have their brother do that. and why did they let their brother do that ... etc etc

the contant griping and complaining from the sideline makes the sick and dying much better I guess.

I'm not saying that Trump and others shouldn't be criticized but it should be somewhat objective and reasonable and with a thought of HELPING him do his job. rather than what comes across as overriding personal animosity for Trump. with trailing 2ndary concern for dealing with the issue.
Your right, "Objective and Reasonable" should not be too much to ask.

It's brutal watching his daily press briefings. Every "Reporter" is hostile, and asking "Gotcha" questions.
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Your right, "Objective and Reasonable" should not be too much to ask.

It's brutal watching his daily press briefings. Every "Reporter" is hostile, and asking "Gotcha" questions.
Do you mean like this?

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Fake news CNN reporter Jim Acosta continues to be a blight at White House press briefings. In a crowd full of bad reporters, asking irrelevant gotcha questions at a time when our nation needs important information more than ever, Acosta stands out as the most disruptive figure at the briefings. He's always been annoying. But as Americans are dying in a global pandemic, Acosta is playing politics and interrupting experts in an attempt to score political points against the president.

On Friday, Acosta interrupted Dr. Deborah Birx as she tried to explain the current focus of the administration's efforts is to tackle the coronavirus. Dr. Birx said there will be an appropriate time later to analyze the actions of the global community and its response to the coronavirus pandemic. Acosta interrupted the doctor, demanding to know why the president said the virus would go away and it hasn't yet. It's basically the same question Acosta keeps asking at every briefing. People are getting sick of it.

Jonathan Turley, the constitutional law professor who testified before the House impeachment inquiry, said Acosta's behavior is destroying the media's credibility, and CNN really can't afford to lose any more of that.

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https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bronso...fings-n2566371
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Exactly like that. Too bad he is not the only one doing it.
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