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3M pushes back after Trump orders company to stop exporting N95 masks

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WASHINGTON — Manufacturing giant 3M pushed backed against President Trump in a statement on Friday that suggested it would not comply with a White House order to stop exporting masks to Canada and Latin America.
The Trump administration on Thursday invoked the Defense Production Act, compelling 3M to prioritize orders for desperately needed N95 respiratory masks for the US government’s national stockpile.
The Minnesota-based company, one of the largest manufacturers of the masks, said it was looking forward to implementing the order and had already been going “above and beyond” in recent weeks to churn them out as quickly as possible amid the coronavirus pandemic.

But 3M criticized a previously unreported request from the White House that it also stop sending any N95 masks to Latin America and Canada, citing “significant humanitarian implications” given the great need for them in the US and complaints from governors around the country, including New York’s Andrew Cuomo, that they wind up in bidding wars for supplies against each other and other countries.

“The Administration also requested that 3M cease exporting respirators that we currently manufacture in the United States to the Canadian and Latin American markets,” the Friday morning statement read.
“There are, however, significant humanitarian implications of ceasing respirator supplies to healthcare workers in Canada and Latin America, where we are a critical supplier of respirators,” it continued.
The manufacturing company said it feared other countries would retaliate if it stopped exporting masks made in the US, “as some have already done.”
“If that were to occur, the net number of respirators being made available to the United States would actually decrease. That is the opposite of what we and the Administration, on behalf of the American people, both seek.”

I'm not sure i can sort this one out so easy.
it's a bit like those 'no win' dilemmas they give to college kids.
Run the train off the track with passenger or kill the baby on the track.
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I'm not sure i can sort this one out so easy.
it's a bit like those 'no win' dilemmas they give to college kids.
Run the train off the track with passenger or kill the baby on the track.
3M is hiding behind it's lawyers on this. Claiming they cannot control the distributors of their products is pure BS. I have been a subcontractor to 3M. They control everything you do with their product. When trouble comes,,,; They will eat their young.
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I'm not sure i can sort this one out so easy.
it's a bit like those 'no win' dilemmas they give to college kids.
Run the train off the track with passenger or kill the baby on the track.
The passengers or the baby? That depends on how much money the passengers have over the baby, and vice versa, in 3m's case.
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1) How enforceable is the order?...

2) I don't think a president should have sole authority on something like this...

I believe Congress should have (at the least) advise and consent obligations...

BUT!!!!...

...it shouldn't need a simple majority...I'd say about 40%...so an opposition majority can't play political games with it...

Putting two branches on that order would show more force than one...
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3M is hiding behind it's lawyers on this. Claiming they cannot control the distributors of their products is pure BS. I have been a subcontractor to 3M. They control everything you do with their product. When trouble comes,,,; They will eat their young.
3M " will eat their young."

whaaat?!? ?! why are you so anti-capitalism Franc? are you a leftist commie that wants socialism and state run biz?!
you've made a complaint against a biz therefore you must hate all big biz and capitalism altogether right?

Of course not.
Thanks for the honest comment.
complaining about SPECIFIC companies operations is not an indictment of capitalism or big companies as a whole.
I hope that comes to mind the next time I or others condemn some craptastic corporate action.
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3M " will eat their young."

whaaat?!? ?! why are you so anti-capitalism Franc? are you a leftist commie that wants socialism and state run biz?!
you've made a complaint against a biz therefore you must hate all big biz and capitalism altogether right?

Of course not.
Thanks for the honest comment.
complaining about SPECIFIC companies operations is not an indictment of capitalism or big companies as a whole.
I hope that comes to mind the next time I or others condemn some craptastic corporate action.
I do hope you are being sarcastic. And perhaps have confused me with someone else. I always have, and will defend capitalism as a system. But not the liars who pervert it.

Are you twelve? Grow up. 3M says they cannot control what their contracted distributors do. I was one and know better.

I call 'em as I see 'em.
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Default Re: 3M pushes back after Trump orders company to stop exporting N95 masks

he can't be in direct competition with those countries if 3m has already committed to selling to them.
here in the states, he can bid up the price against Michigan and new york, etc and horde most of them; doling some out to his favs such as Florida where the gov kisses his butt.
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