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Old 03-07-2020, 07:27 PM
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The problem isn’t just the lack of compassion and support for the victims of the virus (not wanting to let the people off the cruise ship because they’ll make his numbers look bad) or the totally false information he was spewing about the virus and response (saying anyone who wants to get tested can get tested, a blatant lie). Probably even more serious is the rambling insanity of much of what he said: Comparing the COVID-19 test to the Ukraine call transcript? Saying that he was getting the data on the number of cases from Fox News? Bragging about the ratings for his Fox News town hall? Calling Jay Inslee a “snake”? Saying that “it doesn’t bother me” when he was asked about the risk of virus transmission by having more rallies? Saying that he has a “natural ability” to understand everything about this virus (right after admitting that he was surprised to find out how many people die from the flu)? Yes, I’ve understood from day 1 that Trump is an unstable idiot, but to see that fact manifest itself at a time like this should unnerve every American.
Ya know, get it, It's bizarre, but umm that's what "very stable geniuses" do. right?

Trump is just ...out there! and the best we can hope for is that he's stays true to form, in that, his mouth usually outruns his actions, and his actions are usually more restrained and reasonable. And in this case rest in the fact that the people at the CDC and other emergency services and the medical professional on the ground are the ones who are really doing the work.
Also Trump did say something OTHER THAN the cringe worthy items you mentioned, even some reassuring facts, like the fact that millions of test kits are being being create right now.

And to go back to an earlier point, here's the thing that bugs me. I saw Chris Cumo on CNN the other night barking about how terrible Trump is and how few test kits are available etc.
Ok, yeah, but he never mentioned what's being done about that. He and the his guest only wanted to use the fact and other as points to dig into Trump.
OK so the people at CNN and Cumo and the other media, who like yourself, are soo outraged at Trump that they spend most of the time attacking him as a president and a leader rather than trying to get the facts of how best to deal with it and what are the best practices dealing with it. I'm not sure how much better they are than Trump, who's ... at points... is trying to use it as way to make himself look good as a president and a leader.

Seems like at various points both the anti-trump media and Trump are using the virus simply as a tool to make hits and points politically.

Since the media is hyping the virus are the next plague, Seems to me that the media would do better for the country if they minimized the Trump gaffs and grandstanding comments and focus on anything that he said which was sensible. And focus on the problem solving aspects of the administrations actions rather than looking for Trump's shallowness, and making up BS stories like Pence killed AIDS victims... implying he's going to kill all of us too. In the past the media helped cover up some of the presidents illnesses and short comings... especially in times of crisis. If the media had any real concern about the U.S. public and national security they would do more along that line for this guy. Making him look stupid in times of crisis doesn't help us. Making him look WORSE than he is is worse for us all.
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I've already pushed all my clocks forward the hour . . . just to be closer . . . sooner . . . to Nov. 3rd.
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Old 03-08-2020, 08:52 AM
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I've already pushed all my clocks forward the hour . . . just to be closer . . . sooner . . . to Nov. 3rd.
If only we could all be so lucky, The longer this clown is president, the more we are at grave risk. It is remarkably telling that not a single one of the many Trump sycophants around here can come up with anything to defend his shltshow at the CDC.

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On a visit to the Atlanta headquarters of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Friday, President Donald Trump spoke with the press. Alongside CDC Director Robert Redfield and Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar, Trump fielded questions about the federal response to Covid-19, the disease that has so far infected more than 100,000 people around the world and killed more than 3,500—including at least 19 in the United States.

As a reporter, in general I’m not supposed to say something like this, but: The president’s statements to the press were terrifying. That press availability was a repudiation of good science and good crisis management from inside one of the world’s most respected scientific institutions. It was full of Dear Leader-ish compliments, non-sequitorial defenses of unrelated matters, attacks on an American governor, and—most importantly—misinformation about the virus and the US response. That’s particularly painful coming from inside the CDC, a longtime powerhouse in global public health now reduced to being a backdrop for grubby politics. During a public health crisis, clear and true information from leaders is the only way to avoid dangerous panic. Yet here we are.
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If only we could all be so lucky, The longer this clown is president, the more we are at grave risk.
Let's say you get your way and Biden is elected. Be honest, how surprised will you be when a Silver Alert is put out for him . . .
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Let's say you get your way and Biden is elected. Be honest, how surprised will you be when a Silver Alert is put out for him . . .
These attempts to deflect the discussion away from the issue are laughable. The potential Democratic nominee is irrelevant in evaluating Trump’s performance in office during a public health emergency.
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These attempts to deflect the discussion away from the issue are laughable. The potential Democratic nominee is irrelevant in evaluating Trump’s performance in office during a public health emergency.
The same critics ranting hysterically about Trump frightening and horrifying them with his remarks at the CDC are perfectly willing to overlook Biden's mental decrepitude while inflating the Corona virus into Trump's Katrina.

Again we see the Trump hating Resistance media blithely unconcerned with stoking panic while puffing up partisans like publicity hungry Washington Governor Inslee as he detracts from the Federal efforts to combat the virus with state declarations of emergency. Naturally the most selfish motives are assigned to Trump and then repeated as fact.
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The same critics ranting hysterically about Trump frightening and horrifying them with his remarks at the CDC are perfectly willing to overlook Biden's mental decrepitude while inflating the Corona virus into Trump's Katrina.

Again we see the Trump hating Resistance media blithely unconcerned with stoking panic while puffing up partisans like publicity hungry Washington Governor Inslee as he detracts from the Federal efforts to combat the virus with state declarations of emergency. Naturally the most selfish motives are assigned to Trump and then repeated as fact.
I’m sure that the families of the people who have died and will die because the Trump administration was so slow to react to this emergency will take tremendous solace in Joe Biden’s flaws.

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Azar’s bungled announcement before the Senate Finance Committee on Feb. 13 was just one of many preventable missteps and blunders in the federal government’s handling of the coronavirus crisis — the embodiment of an administration that, for weeks, repeatedly squandered opportunities to manage and prepare for a global epidemic that has killed thousands worldwide and at least 19 so far in the United States.

This portrait of the precious weeks that President Trump and his administration frittered away in trying to deal with the coronavirus is the result of interviews with 16 current and former administration officials, state health officials and outside experts, many of whom spoke on the condition of anonymity to share candid assessments.
Squandered Time: How the Trump administration lost control of the coronavirus crisis
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I’m sure that the families of the people who have died and will die because the Trump administration was so slow to react to this emergency will take tremendous solace in Joe Biden’s flaws.
You don't give two snits about any person who is sick or dies. You would rejoice in a broad impact, you pine for the deaths of people just to have 'Orange Man Bad' talking points. You sad, sick leftists disgust me and your positions and policies just make it clear that you and your ilk should never be within gasping distance of political power.

Trump is doing fine; if you need or expect ANY President to be the primary source of information and/or instructions on Covid-19 or any crisis you are stupid. The CDC f'ed up with the test and FDA policies hindered any outside agency from bringing one public. Still, it is on a better timeline than Obunghole's CDC's response to H1N1 and overall, there is no way that any administration could screw a pandemic response worse than that.

Let's revisit in 6 or 7 months and see where we are . . . My prediction is Covid-19 will have waned and will be a distant memory, just like every other leftist churned "Trump's done now" hoax.

Look at this chart. When it was compiled we were still over a week away from Obunghole declaring a national health emergency:



Where was the stock crash then, where was the hours of news coverage of every sniffle and cough in nursing homes?????

Even more to the point, were was the outrage when Obozo was President, when the CDC said that the 1 million infected people mark had been reached in June and only 5000 tests had been run thru the CDC?

Where was the outrage when only 1000 H1N1 test kits (each kit has 600 individual tests in it) had been shipped by September, (with most going abroad) five months after people began getting sick?

Compare that to this event, HHS Sec. Azar said that, "We will have by the end of this weekend over 1.2 million tests around America in public health labs as well as in private and commercial labs, and that is scaling up by the millions, ramping up rapidly."

And before you say, Azar had to correct VP Pence, I'll remind you of what the idiot Biden said a month into H1N1; “When one person sneezes, it goes all the way through the aircraft.” . . .

Why don't you just shut up and sit down and stop being an ass?
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Trump is doing fine; if you need or expect ANY President to be the primary source of information and/or instructions on Covid-19 or any crisis you are stupid.
Every American should expect the president not to lie about the virus and government response and not to complain that if they help sick people it will hurt his "numbers."
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