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A top Mitt Romney adviser in 2011, Joseph Cofer Black, joined Burisma’s board of directors while Hunter Biden was serving on Burisma’s board.

As Erielle Davidson of The Federalist notes:

According to The New Yorker, Hunter joined Burisma’s board in April of 2014 and remained on it until he declined to renew his position this past May. Meanwhile, according to Burisma’s website, Black was appointed in February of 2017 and continues to serve on its board. The timelines would indicate that Black and Biden worked together at Burisma.

Additionally, as Davidson points out, web archives from late 2017 picture Black and Biden as directors on Burisma’s board.

Black’s resume includes serving as director of the National Counterterrorism Center. George W. Bush later appointed him ambassador at large and coordinator for counterterrorism, then Black served as a “special adviser” on Romney’s Foreign Policy and National Security Advisory Team in October of 2011.

When it was announced that Black had joined Burisma’s board, he stated, according to Ukrainian News:

I was impressed to learn that Burisma Group is the fastest-growing private gas producer in Central Europe. International projects where the Group is involved require a more thorough analysis and risk assessment, not only in terms of conventional risks – financial or political but also in terms of security. Additionally, in view of rapidly developing digital and information technologies, the Group needs to effectively deal with potential cyber-attacks and informational risks that may come about as a result of its work. My role will be to advise the Group with respect to its security practices and protocols, including on the most effective protections and programs to guard against cyber-attacks. Unfortunately, today many international companies are subject to data and other cyber-attacks that result in exposing and manipulating information; in particular false information that brings harm to global companies. I also believe my international experience in numerous countries around the world will be of use in shaping the Group’s international expansion strategy.

Ukrainian News asked, “In Ukraine, there have been some rumors surrounding Burisma Group, due to the comments from certain politicians and activists. What can you say? How do you plan to deal with this?”

Black replied:

Ukraine remains the Burisma Group’s strategic market and is a key element of its business strategy. It is here in Ukraine where Burisma plans to deepen its investment bringing more jobs, increased economic strength and more revenue to the state. I believe Burisma’s economic expansion will help Ukraine’s economy and improve Ukraine’s energy security. I will do all that I can to work with leaders and decision-makers and those trying to influence them of the positive impact a privately held energy company like Burisma can have on Ukraine.

In the U.S., privately held energy companies play an important and positive role in economic development in key states like Louisiana, Texas, and North and South Dakota. While elements of civil society may question the growth of some energy companies, I believe they should do so in a lawful manner and ensuring accusations are based on facts and evidence rather than rumor or innuendo.



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Not sure what to make of this, if anything.
What to make of it?
How about that many Democrats and Republicans are corrupt and use their political positions to make $$$ domestically and internationally?
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What to make of it?
How about that many Democrats and Republicans are corrupt and use their political positions to make $$$ domestically and internationally?
Indeed, what to make of it? According to the OP Cofer Black was a Romney adviser in 2011 well before he was appointed to Burisma's board. He has a background in counter terrorism which fits with his assignment on the board. He doesn't have a father or close relative leading US foreign for the Ukraine while he is serving on the board. Most importantly there is no evidence linking Cofer Black to a coercion scheme threating to withhold US aid unless a prosecutor is fired. So, what to make of the phony scandal? Not much.

Influential political leaders serving on domestic corporate boards is a potential problem. Michelle Obama brought home tidy sums from her corporate board membership while hubby was a state senator. But that is nothing compared to the glaring conflict of interest Hunter Biden's payoff from Burisma.
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Indeed, what to make of it? According to the OP Cofer Black was a Romney adviser in 2011 well before he was appointed to Burisma's board. He has a background in counter terrorism which fits with his assignment on the board. He doesn't have a father or close relative leading US foreign for the Ukraine while he is serving on the board. Most importantly there is no evidence linking Cofer Black to a coercion scheme threating to withhold US aid unless a prosecutor is fired. So, what to make of the phony scandal? Not much.

Influential political leaders serving on domestic corporate boards is a potential problem. Michelle Obama brought home tidy sums from her corporate board membership while hubby was a state senator. But that is nothing compared to the glaring conflict of interest Hunter Biden's payoff from Burisma.
Yes, seemed he worked for the CIA for years. and worked for WBush before and after 9/11 and quietly promoted/oversaw the worse of the CIA's actions. Which republicans supported Rendition and torture. But a little look at his history and we'll see that he's not a stranger to that kind of thing, Pre-911 he worked in Uzbekistan with and protecting the dictator there that literally boiled his enemies in oil.
Later he was "advising" Romney and other republicans and on the board of Blackwater. thoroughly right wing... and connected.

As far as being on the board serving a purpose for Burisma’s, SURE, a high profile American Right wing political figure to give more access and help make the company look legit to the U.S. Right while Biden's son makes them look good and give access to the left!
Unless the company wanted torture advise or info on how to spy internationally, stage a coup, torture or assassination as well. Those are the skills he brings to board AZ.

You don't have to be a son of a politician to have the opportunity to be on a shady foreign corps board.

But hey, how about some of the things Trumps kids are doing?
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Donald Trump Jr., the eldest son of President Trump, on Tuesday dismissed concerns about conflicts of interest regarding two Trump-branded projects in Indonesia.
The executive vice president of the Trump Organization was in Jakarta for a pre-launch event as the president’s family enterprise partners with Indonesia’s MNC Group, Reuters reported.
Trump Jr. brushed off concerns that the two Trump Indonesian projects — on the island of Bali and in the city of Lido — could cause potential conflicts of interest.
He said the deal with MNC Group, led by billionaire Hary Tanoesoedibjo, was the last business deal the Trump Organization signed before his father became president in 2017. The business has not taken up any new overseas deals to “avoid even the impression of any kind of impropriety,” he added, according to Reuters....
But Biden was an official
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...Speaking of China, the country—not known for its friendliness to American brands claiming intellectual property rights—has granted Ivanka Trump 34 trademarks since her father took office. At least three were approved the same day she dined, in her capacity as a presidential aide, with Chinese president Xi Jinping at Mar-a-Lago in March 2017. Another batch of trademarks were granted in the days before and after President Trump publicly announced he would take steps to keep Chinese cellphone manufacturer ZTE afloat. Were these trademarks approved on their merits or as part of an effort to influence Trump administration policy? That’s the pesky thing about conflicts of interest—it’s difficult to know whether business arrangements are legitimate or an attempt at influence peddling. Ivanka’s in-laws, the Kushners, have been involved in their own questionable dealings in China, where Jared Kushner’s sister appeared to actively promote the family’s connection to Trump as she marketed an EB-5 investment program on behalf of Kushner Companies....
etc etc...

But hey if you think Biden is so completely different well Ok if you say so. fine. I can't force you see the similarity.
But From my non-partisan perspective I see Republicans and Democrats using their officials positions, family ties, and friends to make hay from corporations foreign and domestic.
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so and so knows a guy who dated the sister of a guy that hired a dog walker who once worked for so and so.



oh the horror.
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oh the horror.
Guy worked Directly for WBush and directly with Romeny and on the board of blackwater.
a lot less than seven layers of Kevin Bacon.

And Trump's kids making, sealing and "finishing" deals in China and Indonisia, Turkey, Suadi Arabia, Brazil, etc etc

so they knows a Trump.
and hunter knows a Biden.

it's more like
"friend a mine", friend of ours" "made guy" and "in the family"
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Yes, seemed he worked for the CIA for years. and worked for WBush before and after 9/11 and quietly promoted/oversaw the worse of the CIA's actions. Which republicans supported Rendition and torture. But a little look at his history and we'll see that he's not a stranger to that kind of thing, Pre-911 he worked in Uzbekistan with and protecting the dictator there that literally boiled his enemies in oil.
Later he was "advising" Romney and other republicans and on the board of Blackwater. thoroughly right wing... and connected.

As far as being on the board serving a purpose for Burisma’s, SURE, a high profile American Right wing political figure to give more access and help make the company look legit to the U.S. Right while Biden's son makes them look good and give access to the left!
Unless the company wanted torture advise or info on how to spy internationally, stage a coup, torture or assassination as well. Those are the skills he brings to board AZ.

You don't have to be a son of a politician to have the opportunity to be on a shady foreign corps board.

But hey, how about some of the things Trumps kids are doing?

But Biden was an official


etc etc...

But hey if you think Biden is so completely different well Ok if you say so. fine. I can't force you see the similarity.
But From my non-partisan perspective I see Republicans and Democrats using their officials positions, family ties, and friends to make hay from corporations foreign and domestic.
You're right, you cannot "force" me to see the similarity between Burisma hiring a guy who had in the past worked with prominent Republicans and hiring the son of the sitting VP at a time when daddy was in charge of US foreign policy for the Ukraine.

There is no evidence that Cofer Black wielded the kind of influence to say threaten to withhold US aid unless a troublesome prosecutor was dismissed like Hunter Biden's dad did. There is no evidence of Cofer Black being chauffeured around on AF2 and delivered as part of the VP's entourage. But somehow the two situations are equivalent.

The plague on both your houses rhetoric is a convenient excuse to ignore Biden's father and son corruption. The Biden family business is monetizing Joe's public office and business is good. But hey, the Trump brothers literally grew up in the family business so that's the same as a Hunter Biden literally depending on daddy for his entire work history to get jobs without qualifications.
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There is no evidence that Cofer Black wielded the kind of influence to say threaten to withhold US aid unless a troublesome prosecutor was dismissed like Hunter Biden's dad did. There is no evidence of Cofer Black being chauffeured around on AF2 and delivered as part of the VP's entourage. But somehow the two situations are equivalent.

The plague on both your houses rhetoric is a convenient excuse to ignore Biden's father and son corruption. The Biden family business is monetizing Joe's public office and business is good. But hey, the Trump brothers literally grew up in the family business so that's the same as a Hunter Biden literally depending on daddy for his entire work history to get jobs without qualifications.
If you want to talk about a lack of evidence, how about the complete lack of evidence that Biden's pressure on Ukraine to fire Shokin was intended to benefit Burisma? And if it was some sort of corrupt effort designed to help Hunter Biden, why was it US policy (formulated by others in the administration) to try to force him out? Why were the European Union and the IMF also trying to force him out? The simple fact is that the chances for a real investigation and prosecution of Burisma went up when Shokin was canned. Biden was acting against Hunter's business interests.
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You're right, you cannot "force" me to see the similarity between Burisma hiring a guy who had in the past worked with prominent Republicans and hiring the son of the sitting VP at a time when daddy was in charge of US foreign policy for the Ukraine.
we agree.

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There is no evidence that Cofer Black wielded the kind of influence to say threaten to withhold US aid unless a troublesome prosecutor was dismissed like Hunter Biden's dad did. There is no evidence of Cofer Black being chauffeured around on AF2 and delivered as part of the VP's entourage. But somehow the two situations are equivalent.
Did i say the situations are equivalent or did i say similar?
there is difference.
sure it's not an exact match 1 for 1 AZ.
but If a kid gets a job on baseball team because his dad is the mayor. and another guy gets a job on the baseball team because he used to work for the mayor and was on the police force.
It is similar.
neither one has ANY relevant baseball experience. but there connections can be helpful.
So I guess it's not exactly the same so it must be completely and totally different.

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The plague on both your houses rhetoric is a convenient excuse to ignore Biden's father and son corruption. The Biden family business is monetizing Joe's public office and business is good. But hey, the Trump brothers literally grew up in the family business so that's the same as a Hunter Biden literally depending on daddy for his entire work history to get jobs without qualifications.
"The plague on both your houses rhetoric is a convenient excuse to ignore..."

A plague on both means we can Ignore one?
who said that?
in my book plague on both means a plague on BOTH!


"... Trump brothers literally grew up in the family business so that's the same as a Hunter Biden literally depending on daddy..."


But that's not even the main issue, the issue is corrupting influence on U.S. political policy for personal gain.
business experience just might helps them be more savvy in the corruption.
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