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Old 01-28-2020, 08:29 AM
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In case we should forget. While he was a legend in his sport, there are huge marks against the man. Of course Kimmel gets all emotional over Bryant. Seems he did forget.

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But when taking into account the entire breadth of Bryant’s tenure in the spotlight, the personal and professional, there will always be one giant question mark, one disturbing episode that gives even the most ardent admirers of the Black Mamba considerable pause: the rape case.
The Kobe Bryant rape case has, in the annals of popular culture, been reduced to something of a punchline due to the aftermath—namely, Bryant’s $4 million, 8-carat purple diamond apology ring that he gifted to his wife, Vanessa. But what exactly transpired on....
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In case we should forget. While he was a legend in his sport, there are huge marks against the man. Of course Kimmel gets all emotional over Bryant. Seems he did forget.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/kobe-b...alf-confession
I don't think anyone forgot. Its either you think he is guilty of rape or you think the accusor was trying to scam him out of money for a one night stand. The fact she caused the criminal case to go bust and went after him in a civil court(which has a much lower burden of proof than a criminal court does) seems to prove the latter. Which is why I think if a person is found innocent in a criminal court of something or the case was dropped then it should be illegal to sue that person in civil court the accused was found innocent of or the case dismissed because the charges were dropped.
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Funny how people forget these events when lauding a super athlete.

One of the most vile things a man can do is rape a woman.
One of the most dishonest things a man can do is cheat on his wife.

Massive disrespect to both women.

His induction into the Hall Of Fame will erase the sex offense from the minds of everyone but the victim. And most likely Mrs. Bryant
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Mike Tyson went to prison for raping a Sunday School teacher and I was glad.
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I don't think anyone forgot. Its either you think he is guilty of rape or you think the accusor was trying to scam him out of money for a one night stand. The fact she caused the criminal case to go bust and went after him in a civil court(which has a much lower burden of proof than a criminal court does) seems to prove the latter. Which is why I think if a person is found innocent in a criminal court of something or the case was dropped then it should be illegal to sue that person in civil court the accused was found innocent of or the case dismissed because the charges were dropped.
A criminal conviction puts Kobe in prison. A civil case resolves guilt to a payment award.
Best for both parties to go civil.
Burden of proof????
She had him figuratively by the nuts. Going civil did Kobe a favor.
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I don't think anyone forgot. Its either you think he is guilty of rape or you think the accusor was trying to scam him out of money for a one night stand. The fact she caused the criminal case to go bust and went after him in a civil court(which has a much lower burden of proof than a criminal court does) seems to prove the latter. Which is why I think if a person is found innocent in a criminal court of something or the case was dropped then it should be illegal to sue that person in civil court the accused was found innocent of or the case dismissed because the charges were dropped.
People acquitted in criminal cases , and then sued in civil cases on the same charges, are in effect going through double jeopardy, and it is a loophole for money-making stinking bottom feeding lawyers, prosecutors, and sleazy judges.

How can a person be tried in a civil court for something that received a "not guilty" verdict in a criminal court?
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A criminal conviction puts Kobe in prison. A civil case resolves guilt to a payment award.
If its about justice instead of money then the accuser should want the rapist in prison.

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Best for both parties to go civil.
A rapist going free is best for society?

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Burden of proof????
The burden of proof is much lower in a civil trial. In a criminal trial the standard is guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. In a civil trial the standard is more likely than not something happened.

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She had him figuratively by the nuts. Going civil did Kobe a favor.
If that was the case then she would have continued with the criminal trial instead of sinking it.
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If its about justice instead of money then the accuser should want the rapist in prison.



A rapist going free is best for society?



The burden of proof is much lower in a civil trial. In a criminal trial the standard is guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. In a civil trial the standard is more likely than not something happened.



If that was the case then she would have continued with the criminal trial instead of sinking it
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Why are you pressing this?

First you imply the malice motives of the Victim and now you suggest I want a rapist to go free?
In a he said she said, whom can we, as outsiders believe with any certainty? The guy we like or the victim with whom we hold sympathy?

I'm just saying a settlement between aggravates in a civil court allows the establishment of guilt and reparations made. It' s an argument between the two of them. Both damaged but able to move on. The world now knows and can stop speculating.

As outsiders we are but mere observers, not affected participants.

As for the bolded, you make an unjust assumption of her motives. That she was in it for the money o she would have put his ass in jail. Not necessarily so. You might try her shoe on your foot.
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It was a very sad day for all of the families involved with this terrible helicopter accident.....

Hopefully the NTSB will find out what happened to that aircraft and why it ended up crashing....

Kobe is a basketball legend and is daughter was a young and upcoming WBA star, so sad....

Kobe had his flaws no doubt but, he touched the lives of millions over the years and you will hear from some of those people at his funeral very soon...

A very tragic ending for all...
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People acquitted in criminal cases , and then sued in civil cases on the same charges, are in effect going through double jeopardy, and it is a loophole for money-making stinking bottom feeding lawyers, prosecutors, and sleazy judges.

How can a person be tried in a civil court for something that received a "not guilty" verdict in a criminal court?
Because although their innocence was not proven, neither was their guilt.

The assumption of innocence prevails. Under our criminal system, innocence is presumed and need not be proven.
However, under civil law damages for action, negligent or intentional, can be awarded without proving a commission of a crime.
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