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Old 01-29-2020, 04:07 AM
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That still wouldn't change anything. Not every woman automatically believes every rape allegation that is made.
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why we need a woman president and majority of women in congress, mayors, governors, etcetera
This is the closed minded attitude that permeates the left. It is all about identity politics.

Personally, I don't care your about a persons sex, race, ethnicity, religion or any other immutable factor when looking for someone to do a job. All I care about is that the person is capable and willing to do the job. It doesn't matter if the job is President of the United States, or someone being hired to clean toilets.

The fact that you believe that a persons genitals somehow magically makes them suited to lead our country, says a lot about you.
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I read something about her wanting to make her ex-boyfriend jealous by sleeping with Kobe.

I ask myself this, why would a guy like him want to rape a woman?

There are long lines of beautiful women that would be more than happy to give him anything he wanted.

For him to have to rape a woman, he would have to be some kind of twisted psychopath.

I don't think we can make that assumption.
Rape is not about sex, and who is available for sex. It's about power and control.

Quite often, when someone is famous (or famous in their head) and someone says 'no', it becomes about 'how dare they! I'll teach them!' The power/control thing.

They don't necessarily need to be a twisted psycho - it can be a moment of blinding anger. It's the fact that they lose control, and attempt to regain it by punishing the source of the perceived 'loss'.

I don't know Kobe, or anything beyond the alleged rape and his reputation on the basketball court. He was never on my radar. All I know is the people fawning over him, as with many things, seem to have put aside that he was accused of this, and will likely forget it ever existed.
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Why does a persons gender/race/creed/color/sexual orientation have anything to do with their qualifications?

Oh, yeah, that's right. Symbolic identification. Yup, absolutely the very best way to place a person in a power position. Who needs intelligence, knowledge, some sort of experience.

And what, pray tell, does it have to do with the OP?
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Again its alleged victim. Bryant was never found guilty in criminal court of raping her. Are you telling me that you believe every accusation of rape someone makes? Do you believe the accusations against Brett Kavanaugh, Clarence Thomas, and Donald Trump?



So she thought it was best to let a rapist go free and potentially rape other women?



There is nothing cruel or sexist about my position. The fact is she tanked the criminal case against Bryant and went after him in civil court where the standards of proof are much lower. That is highly suspicious.That says she was after solely for money not justice




Its not proof of rape.The bruises could have came from anywhere. You should know that.


Again the standards of guilt in a civil trial are much lower than that of a criminal trial. The standards used is civil court to find someone guilty would not work in a criminal court. Its why when law enforcement confiscates someone's money and assets they tie it up in civil court because the standards of guilt are much lower.
The event happened. Period. Kobe admitted to it. The only argument is consent. Even that evaporates in light of the injuries which, according to the medical staff at the time, were consistent with forced rape. Criminal court or Civil court is irrelevant. THAT is the point.
No matter the number of times you repeat it, your pathetic defense is mute.

AGAIN IT IS ALWAY AMUSING TO ATTEMPT A CONVERSATION WITH A CLOSED MIND.


Last night Tucker talked about Kobe and his daughter attending mass together before the flight. "What a great guy!" he said.
I stand with Gotta Go and CindyB's assessment on this. Kobe will always be remembered by his fans as a great guy, loving father and husband. In many ways he was. But this aberrant behavior, be it rape or adultery, still happened. This event, and his other escapes will be forgotten by all but the victims.
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Not pointing anybody out, but, I find it difficult to decipher butchered English.

Okay. Back to the topic of Kobe's case.
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The event happened. Period. Kobe admitted to it.
When did he admit to this? Are you talking about the I'm sorry because you thought I rape you apology he issued after the criminal trial was dropped? That is not an admittance of guilt.

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The only argument is consent. Even that evaporates in light of the injuries which, according to the medical staff at the time, were consistent with forced rape. Criminal court or Civil court is irrelevant. THAT is the point.
No matter the number of times you repeat it, your pathetic defense is mute.
It is also consistent with rough sex, first time having having sex, jet and watering skiing accidents and foreign objects inserted into the vagina.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaginal_trauma#Cause So it is not proof of rape.


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AGAIN IT IS ALWAY AMUSING TO ATTEMPT A CONVERSATION WITH A CLOSED MIND.
Thats rich coming from you when you think he is guilty and his accuser is telling the truth.
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Last night Tucker talked about Kobe and his daughter attending mass together before the flight. "What a great guy!" he said.
I stand with Gotta Go and CindyB's assessment on this. Kobe will always be remembered by his fans as a great guy, loving father and husband. In many ways he was. But this aberrant behavior, be it rape or adultery, still happened. This event, and his other escapes will be forgotten by all but the victims.
Allegedly happened.He wasn't found guilty in a criminal court of law. Settling in civil court is not an admittance of guilt.
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When did he admit to this? Are you talking about the I'm sorry because you thought I rape you apology he issued after the criminal trial was dropped? That is not an admittance of guilt.


It is also consistent with rough sex, first time having having sex, jet and watering skiing accidents and foreign objects inserted into the vagina.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaginal_trauma#Cause So it is not proof of rape.




Thats rich coming from you when you think he is guilty and his accuser is telling the truth.

Allegedly happened.He wasn't found guilty in a criminal court of law. Settling in civil court is not an admittance of guilt.
First it did not "allegedly" happen. Kobe admitted to the encounter. After DNA proved it. No court judgement of guilty is required.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/kobe-b...alf-confession

All your speculations about motives aside, here is what we do know
Kobe is a magnificent basket ballplayer.
But as a sexual partner, his victim, whether willingly not, wasn't much impressed with his love making.


Your repeated arguments citing the same justifications fail to deny of what he is guilty. Adultery. I have claimed and defended no more than that.
Explaining how the law works hasn't helped you at all.


I'm done here.
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First it did not "allegedly" happen. Kobe admitted to the encounter. After DNA proved it. No court judgement of guilty is required.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/kobe-b...alf-confession

All your speculations about motives aside, here is what we do know
Kobe is a magnificent basket ballplayer.
But as a sexual partner, his victim, whether willingly not, wasn't much impressed with his love making.


Your repeated arguments citing the same justifications fail to deny of what he is guilty. Adultery. I have claimed and defended no more than that.
Explaining how the law works hasn't helped you at all.


I'm done here.
1.DNA is just evidence they had sex.It doesn't prove it was consensual or rape. He admitted to having consensual sex with the ALLEDGED victim. The vaginal tearing that you said happened could have been cause by any number of things as I proved in my previous post.So it is not evidence of rape.

2.Again an "I'm sorry you thought our consensual night of sex was rape" is not an admittance of guilt. Its basically like an "I'm sorry you are so stupid" apology or some other non-apology.

3.Rape and adultery are not anywhere near the same ballpark. Cheating on your spouse doesn't make you a rapist, it just means you are a shitty spouse. Nowhere have I said he he was innocent of adultery.
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That still wouldn't change anything. Not every woman automatically believes every rape allegation that is made.
well that's a good thing
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