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Medicare for all would mean she waits and waits for a shot at cut rate medical care. As President Obama without a scrap of medical training, you could be better off taking pills for the pain, instead of the surgery.
no
thats not at all how medicare works

or the VA hospital

no matter what corporate lobbyists and ad execs have tried to portray for their private clients
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This is why we have a republic instead of a democracy. When the government steals from A to give to B, B likes it.

In this case it's even worse, Elizabeth Warren among others can't show a realistic means of paying for Medicare for all but we can be certain that 160 million of us will lose our medical insurance. But don't worry, the Federal government will take good care of you just like they did with the promise of allowing you to keep your doctor and your insurance under Obamacare.
this is why you don't know your azz from a hole in the ground. you believe only your memes and masters instead of real scholars or founding fathers.


the fundamental principle of government in America as observed by a famous traveler is“the sovereignty of the people.”

a democracy was portrayed by a famous author as a small in your face group

but representative democracy was coined into the word 'republic'

you see these terms had not been bantered about before
some of them were even new

this is outlined here:
https://www.britannica.com/topic/dem...cy-or-republic

but beware you cannot cherry-pick; you have to read a good chunk of it and then you'll get the answer.

in America the words democrat and republic are not enemies
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Is that something like taxing relative to the prosperity of the owner of the luxury? I smell a stinking monarchy trying to begin an inception into America, if there are people out there okay with that horse crap. Remember the British window tax? Heck, remember the Stamp Act?
it was the french. and it was the king who did the taxing.

here we vote on it either directly or through our elected representative.
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we the people are the government. we gain revenue from taxes.
Try obtaining the same level of service that the elites in government get with that thinking.
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there are very few if any private companies that have taken over govt jobs that do them as well or cheaply.
That is one of your most uninformed posts that I have ever read. And that was a high bar to cross, yet you pulled it off. Congrats!
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we the people are the government. we gain revenue from taxes.
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it was the french. and it was the king who did the taxing.

here we vote on it either directly or through our elected representative.
I will disregard your "french and king" absurdities. Are you serious about people actually voting to have their luxuries taxed?
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I will disregard your "french and king" absurdities. Are you serious about people actually voting to have their luxuries taxed?
Remember when Clinton taxed the Yacht industry? The poor democrats LOVED it.

But he didn't get any revenue cause the rich stopped buying new yachts.

But he was successful with the industry laying off thousands of yacht builders.

Democrats like Salty will probably say that the rich should be FORCED to buy new yachts and pay huge taxes.
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Are the public sector union membership (not the leadership) going to be all-in for this part of Pocohonkey's health care plan?

"Warren’s $20.5 trillion over a decade to pay for Medicare for All requires what she calls a “redirection” in funds: $6 trillion in “existing state- and local-government insurance spending.” Of this figure, $3.3 trillion goes for Medicaid, public insurance for poorer people.

But the other $2.7 trillion comes from the funds state and local governments “currently spend on employer contributions to private insurance premiums for their employees.”

Warren wants these governments to give this money to Washington instead. Teachers, firefighters, police officers and the like would be covered by a federal plan, not by the private plans their employers currently pay for."

https://nypost.com/2019/11/10/warren...ganized-labor/

I see major reluctance for this takeover and theft . . . These union members consider their plans (especially the ones that were considered "Cadillac" under Obozocare) hard fought for benefits that they have chosen to provide themselves (instead of in-the-check wage increases).

I don't think anyone is going to just roll over as the feds to just come in and say to towns and states, "just write that check you were writing to Blue Cross to the US Treasury and we'll send you a notice with the coverage we'll provide. Have a nice day"

I can't wait to discuss this with my teacher friends . . .
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