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MSM at it AGAIN. making up BS to try and get us into WAR.

Faked Syrian Atrocity Video and the Rush To Condemn Trump

There it was for all to see Sunday night, October 13…right there on ABC Nightly News (and then re-shown on “Good Morning America”): grotesque and horrible film footage of Turkish army units shelling and massacring our defenseless Kurdish allies and their families in northeastern Syria. You could hear Lindsey Graham wailing at top voice: “Stop the atrocities! Stop the genocide!”
There was just one small problem: the film footage shown by ABC News was faked, it was not of Turks massacring helpless Kurds. It was, instead, film footage of a nighttime arms demonstration at the Knob Creek Gun Range in West Point, Kentucky. ABC News’ announcer, David Muir, intoned that the situation in Syria “is rapidly spiraling out of control.”
ABC’s Tom Llamas, earlier on Sunday, breathlessly reported: “This video right here appear[s] to show Turkey’s military bombing Kurd civilians in a Syrian border town. The Kurds, who fought alongside the U.S. against ISIS. Now, horrific reports of atrocities committed by Turkish-backed fighters on those very allies.”
“This video, obtained by ABC News, appears to show the fury of the Turkish attack on the border town of Tal Abyad,” senior foreign correspondent Ian Pannell, who is in Syria, said Monday on Good Morning America.

When finally confronted by the fake video, a spokesman for ABC replied defensively:
“We’ve taken down video that aired on ‘World News Tonight Sunday’ and ‘Good Morning America’ this morning that appeared to be from the Syrian border immediately after questions were raised about its accuracy,” a spokesman told the Washington Examiner. “ABC News regrets the error….”
But did you see any corrections on air?
Which raises all sorts of uncomfortable questions: how did ABC get the footage? Did they not know its provenance? What was the reason for screening it?
I think we know the answers to those queries. But in answering them, another even deeper consideration arises: here we have a mouthpiece of the Deep State Swamp and a leading minion of the Mainstream Media, agents of the Washington Establishment once again attempting to manipulate public opinion to defend the “national consensus” in favor of globalism, and to persuade viewers that what is black is actually white…and that Donald Trump is, well, abetting war crimes and criminality.

Fascinatingly, Fox avoided mentioning it or commenting on it—this from the so-called “conservative network”—until Lou Dobbs mentioned the fake video on October 16 on his program “Lou Dobbs Tonight.” Dobbs, of course, is one of the very few commentators still on Fox who actually favors the American withdrawal from the never-ending conflict in Syria.
And the reason, again, is obvious. Fox News by and large (with a couple of notable exceptions) is zealously pro-intervention and resolutely opposed to the pull-back of American “advisers.” Thus, the virtual black out. Who says the Neoconservatives don’t engage in their own censorship?

And so do the lemmings in Congress. They voted in the House of Representatives 354 to 60 to condemn the president’s withdrawal order, and that number included 129 Republicans congressmen, despite that fact that support for reducing American presence is well over 57% among the Republican base.
It seems to make no difference to the Republican and conservative Inside-the-Beltway elites. Always, it seems, they join with their friends on the further Left to defend the continuing efforts to impose egalitarianism, democracy, and the triumph of a globalist “new order” all around the world, paid for by American taxpayers and with returning American body bags.

The news from northeastern Syria is actually hopeful, although you will not hear that from Fox News or from most members of Congress. Because of the American pull-back, the Syrian Kurds have turned to the legitimate government of Syria for cooperation and protection: to the government of Bashar al-Assad which, with substantial Russian support, has done most of the fighting against ISIS and cleared most of the country of those terrorists.
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this is the kind of FAKE NEWS that cost soldiers lives and American dollars.
It's makes ZERO sense that ABC didn't know this was not in Syria.
Unless they got the "footage and story" directly from someone they trusted in gov't or intel and just ran with it raw.
Aside from that scenario many people at ABC had to know it was fake.

the MSM (left or right) is not to be trusted.
well at least do as Reagan said.
"Trust but verify"
ESPECIALLY when it come to talk about war.
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This is standard operating procedure...A picture that would accentuate the narrative; irrelevant of its authenticity...

Here's another that just happened...

Kurt Eichenwald Posts 1983 Image of Child Earthquake Victims to Bash Trump Over Syria Pullout

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Journalist and New York Times bestselling author Kurt Eichenwald posted an image showing child victims from a 1983 earthquake in attempt to pass off the photo as a consequence of President Trump pulling U.S. forces out of Syria.

“Child murder? Not a problem for @GOP anymore. Its a feature. Dont you complicit killers ONCE say “family values,” Eichenwald tweeted yesterday.

However, the photograph, which shows a woman crying over the corpses of five children, was taken in 1983 after an earthquake in Turkey’s eastern Erzurum province.

The image is one of several dubious photographs to have been erroneously presented as evidence that Trump is complicit or responsible for war crimes.
Eichenwald has not deleted the tweet despite its completely fraudulent nature and hundreds of respondents pointing that out in response.

The journalist was previously embroiled in controversy after he unwittingly shared a screenshot from his computer showing that he had looked up tentacle porn.
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MSM at it AGAIN. making up BS to try and get us into WAR.

Faked Syrian Atrocity Video and the Rush To Condemn Trump

There it was for all to see Sunday night, October 13…right there on ABC Nightly News (and then re-shown on “Good Morning America”): grotesque and horrible film footage of Turkish army units shelling and massacring our defenseless Kurdish allies and their families in northeastern Syria. You could hear Lindsey Graham wailing at top voice: “Stop the atrocities! Stop the genocide!”
There was just one small problem: the film footage shown by ABC News was faked, it was not of Turks massacring helpless Kurds. It was, instead, film footage of a nighttime arms demonstration at the Knob Creek Gun Range in West Point, Kentucky. ABC News’ announcer, David Muir, intoned that the situation in Syria “is rapidly spiraling out of control.”
ABC’s Tom Llamas, earlier on Sunday, breathlessly reported: “This video right here appear[s] to show Turkey’s military bombing Kurd civilians in a Syrian border town. The Kurds, who fought alongside the U.S. against ISIS. Now, horrific reports of atrocities committed by Turkish-backed fighters on those very allies.”
“This video, obtained by ABC News, appears to show the fury of the Turkish attack on the border town of Tal Abyad,” senior foreign correspondent Ian Pannell, who is in Syria, said Monday on Good Morning America.

When finally confronted by the fake video, a spokesman for ABC replied defensively:
“We’ve taken down video that aired on ‘World News Tonight Sunday’ and ‘Good Morning America’ this morning that appeared to be from the Syrian border immediately after questions were raised about its accuracy,” a spokesman told the Washington Examiner. “ABC News regrets the error….”
But did you see any corrections on air?
Which raises all sorts of uncomfortable questions: how did ABC get the footage? Did they not know its provenance? What was the reason for screening it?
I think we know the answers to those queries. But in answering them, another even deeper consideration arises: here we have a mouthpiece of the Deep State Swamp and a leading minion of the Mainstream Media, agents of the Washington Establishment once again attempting to manipulate public opinion to defend the “national consensus” in favor of globalism, and to persuade viewers that what is black is actually white…and that Donald Trump is, well, abetting war crimes and criminality.

Fascinatingly, Fox avoided mentioning it or commenting on it—this from the so-called “conservative network”—until Lou Dobbs mentioned the fake video on October 16 on his program “Lou Dobbs Tonight.” Dobbs, of course, is one of the very few commentators still on Fox who actually favors the American withdrawal from the never-ending conflict in Syria.
And the reason, again, is obvious. Fox News by and large (with a couple of notable exceptions) is zealously pro-intervention and resolutely opposed to the pull-back of American “advisers.” Thus, the virtual black out. Who says the Neoconservatives don’t engage in their own censorship?

And so do the lemmings in Congress. They voted in the House of Representatives 354 to 60 to condemn the president’s withdrawal order, and that number included 129 Republicans congressmen, despite that fact that support for reducing American presence is well over 57% among the Republican base.
It seems to make no difference to the Republican and conservative Inside-the-Beltway elites. Always, it seems, they join with their friends on the further Left to defend the continuing efforts to impose egalitarianism, democracy, and the triumph of a globalist “new order” all around the world, paid for by American taxpayers and with returning American body bags.

The news from northeastern Syria is actually hopeful, although you will not hear that from Fox News or from most members of Congress. Because of the American pull-back, the Syrian Kurds have turned to the legitimate government of Syria for cooperation and protection: to the government of Bashar al-Assad which, with substantial Russian support, has done most of the fighting against ISIS and cleared most of the country of those terrorists.
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https://www.lewrockwell.com/2019/10/...condemn-trump/


this is the kind of FAKE NEWS that cost soldiers lives and American dollars.
It's makes ZERO sense that ABC didn't know this was not in Syria.
Unless they got the "footage and story" directly from someone they trusted in gov't or intel and just ran with it raw.
Aside from that scenario many people at ABC had to know it was fake.

the MSM (left or right) is not to be trusted.
well at least do as Reagan said.
"Trust but verify"
ESPECIALLY when it come to talk about war.
MSM didn't even bother faking the photo. They plagerized someone else's photon then deliberately mislabeled it to suit their story.

This is another example of print it on page one, disclaim on 19B and it's all good. I hope this photo is not in public domain and the owner sues their asses off.
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But our leftist posters will claim that there is no bias in the MSM and it is just conservatives crying about the MSM reporting the news.
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But our leftist posters will claim that there is no bias in the MSM and it is just conservatives crying about the MSM reporting the news.
Remember when a media outlet incorrectly attributed a wrong picture that ended up affecting a Democrat negatively?....

Yeah...me neither...AMAZING that every instance of this "just happens" to go one way...
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I do not mean to imply that such deceit does not occur from the GOP or even Conservatives. But, despite the fallibility of human behavior, at least Conservatism aspires to be above board and truthful.

It is shamefully sad enough that there is an obvious bias. But, by all appearances, the Left Wing media has no intention of truth, much less shame, in it's deceitful publications of "news."
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I do not mean to imply that such deceit does not occur from the GOP or even Conservatives. But, despite the fallibility of human behavior, at least Conservatism aspires to be above board and truthful.

It is shamefully sad enough that there is an obvious bias. But, by all appearances, the Left Wing media has no intention of truth, much less shame, in it's deceitful publications of "news."
The MSM media's mission is not to inform the public as was their original charter. It is in fact to misinform the public to push a narrative that favors leftist polices by any means possible. As Alinsky said "The ends justify the means." Today's media is demonstrating that on a daily basis.
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The MSM media's mission is not to inform the public as was their original charter. It is in fact to misinform the public to push a narrative that favors leftist polices by any means possible. As Alinsky said "The ends justify the means." Today's media is demonstrating that on a daily basis.
The media was given special privilege in the first amendment so that it could challenge the government without fear of retribution. This concept works well so long as the media purposely avoid taking either, or any, side in presenting the facts of the news of the day.

Commentary about those "facts" is called editorials and is supposed to be a whole nuther matter
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MSM at it AGAIN. making up BS to try and get us into WAR.

Faked Syrian Atrocity Video and the Rush To Condemn Trump

There it was for all to see Sunday night, October 13…right there on ABC Nightly News (and then re-shown on “Good Morning America”): grotesque and horrible film footage of Turkish army units shelling and massacring our defenseless Kurdish allies and their families in northeastern Syria. You could hear Lindsey Graham wailing at top voice: “Stop the atrocities! Stop the genocide!”
There was just one small problem: the film footage shown by ABC News was faked, it was not of Turks massacring helpless Kurds. It was, instead, film footage of a nighttime arms demonstration at the Knob Creek Gun Range in West Point, Kentucky. ABC News’ announcer, David Muir, intoned that the situation in Syria “is rapidly spiraling out of control.”
ABC’s Tom Llamas, earlier on Sunday, breathlessly reported: “This video right here appear[s] to show Turkey’s military bombing Kurd civilians in a Syrian border town. The Kurds, who fought alongside the U.S. against ISIS. Now, horrific reports of atrocities committed by Turkish-backed fighters on those very allies.”
“This video, obtained by ABC News, appears to show the fury of the Turkish attack on the border town of Tal Abyad,” senior foreign correspondent Ian Pannell, who is in Syria, said Monday on Good Morning America.

When finally confronted by the fake video, a spokesman for ABC replied defensively:
“We’ve taken down video that aired on ‘World News Tonight Sunday’ and ‘Good Morning America’ this morning that appeared to be from the Syrian border immediately after questions were raised about its accuracy,” a spokesman told the Washington Examiner. “ABC News regrets the error….”
But did you see any corrections on air?
Which raises all sorts of uncomfortable questions: how did ABC get the footage? Did they not know its provenance? What was the reason for screening it?
I think we know the answers to those queries. But in answering them, another even deeper consideration arises: here we have a mouthpiece of the Deep State Swamp and a leading minion of the Mainstream Media, agents of the Washington Establishment once again attempting to manipulate public opinion to defend the “national consensus” in favor of globalism, and to persuade viewers that what is black is actually white…and that Donald Trump is, well, abetting war crimes and criminality.

Fascinatingly, Fox avoided mentioning it or commenting on it—this from the so-called “conservative network”—until Lou Dobbs mentioned the fake video on October 16 on his program “Lou Dobbs Tonight.” Dobbs, of course, is one of the very few commentators still on Fox who actually favors the American withdrawal from the never-ending conflict in Syria.
And the reason, again, is obvious. Fox News by and large (with a couple of notable exceptions) is zealously pro-intervention and resolutely opposed to the pull-back of American “advisers.” Thus, the virtual black out. Who says the Neoconservatives don’t engage in their own censorship?

And so do the lemmings in Congress. They voted in the House of Representatives 354 to 60 to condemn the president’s withdrawal order, and that number included 129 Republicans congressmen, despite that fact that support for reducing American presence is well over 57% among the Republican base.
It seems to make no difference to the Republican and conservative Inside-the-Beltway elites. Always, it seems, they join with their friends on the further Left to defend the continuing efforts to impose egalitarianism, democracy, and the triumph of a globalist “new order” all around the world, paid for by American taxpayers and with returning American body bags.

The news from northeastern Syria is actually hopeful, although you will not hear that from Fox News or from most members of Congress. Because of the American pull-back, the Syrian Kurds have turned to the legitimate government of Syria for cooperation and protection: to the government of Bashar al-Assad which, with substantial Russian support, has done most of the fighting against ISIS and cleared most of the country of those terrorists.
...
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https://www.lewrockwell.com/2019/10/...condemn-trump/


this is the kind of FAKE NEWS that cost soldiers lives and American dollars.
It's makes ZERO sense that ABC didn't know this was not in Syria.
Unless they got the "footage and story" directly from someone they trusted in gov't or intel and just ran with it raw.
Aside from that scenario many people at ABC had to know it was fake.

the MSM (left or right) is not to be trusted.
well at least do as Reagan said.
"Trust but verify"
ESPECIALLY when it come to talk about war.
This should be in "Conspiracy theories"

And fyi; it's not a very believable one.
google
read your local news paper
stay off stupid sites
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This is standard operating procedure...A picture that would accentuate the narrative; irrelevant of its authenticity...

Here's another that just happened...

Kurt Eichenwald Posts 1983 Image of Child Earthquake Victims to Bash Trump Over Syria Pullout
do you doubt children are being killed because trump had more personal interests with ergduon than american interests?
maybe they used file footage but more likely this will turn out to be a lie like all the propaganda shLt too late because people already think it's true.
people who will themselves to stupidity.
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