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Interesting, I wonder what they have to support this charge.


That part we don't have any information about. I'm guessing he probably brandished a firearm to take a video, like those action movies show, some Rambotito holding his weapon at the ready or something similar. I still say he will be let go, and the other two, all with warnings.
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You don't threaten someone with deadly force just "to be on the safe side".
About the above. people should understand what a citizen's arrest consists of.
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Leaving that part aside, since it has not been certified true, you say you're in Alaska, and especially during hunting season, plenty of people carry their weapons inside a store, can you say, in one day, how many people approximately?
Impossible to say with any accuracy. In Alaska anybody that can possess a firearm can carry it concealed or open. You don't see a lot of long guns being carried regularly in say Anchorage, however it does become more common during hunting season. Handguns are carried with fair regularity, I don't think it would be a stretch to say that 20% of the people in a store would be armed at any given time, but that's a guess on my part.

It also depends on where you are at in the state. In Anchorage, carrying a rifle into a grocery store may get you some looks and the store may ask you to leave. In a more rural area, nobody is likely to even give a second glance.
As far as handguns, I don't even know of a store or mall in Alaska that has a no firearms sign. Seeing somebody carrying an open or semi-concealed handgun is fairly common.
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Impossible to say with any accuracy. In Alaska anybody that can possess a firearm can carry it concealed or open. You don't see a lot of long guns being carried regularly in say Anchorage, however it does become more common during hunting season. Handguns are carried with fair regularity, I don't think it would be a stretch to say that 20% of the people in a store would be armed at any given time, but that's a guess on my part.

It also depends on where you are at in the state. In Anchorage, carrying a rifle into a grocery store may get you some looks and the store may ask you to leave. In a more rural area, nobody is likely to even give a second glance.
As far as handguns, I don't even know of a store or mall in Alaska that has a no firearms sign. Seeing somebody carrying an open or semi-concealed handgun is fairly common.
I would feel safer if more than one person was openly carrying. I prefer concealed, because open carry makes you a psycho's primary target.
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Impossible to say with any accuracy. In Alaska anybody that can possess a firearm can carry it concealed or open. You don't see a lot of long guns being carried regularly in say Anchorage, however it does become more common during hunting season. Handguns are carried with fair regularity, I don't think it would be a stretch to say that 20% of the people in a store would be armed at any given time, but that's a guess on my part.

It also depends on where you are at in the state. In Anchorage, carrying a rifle into a grocery store may get you some looks and the store may ask you to leave. In a more rural area, nobody is likely to even give a second glance.
As far as handguns, I don't even know of a store or mall in Alaska that has a no firearms sign. Seeing somebody carrying an open or semi-concealed handgun is fairly common.
I should consider moving to Alaska as the chances of some nut-job successfully shooting up a store in which a good number of patrons are carrying, would be slim to none. I wonder how long it will take for some of these liberal cities/states to see that correlation?
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He was simply seeing if some store would respect his Second Amendment right, eh?

I know some psycho in there, hidden from customers, would not care one bit, and he would be a primary target prior to a bloodbath.
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And that says it all.

Pushing the limits of patience does not work out well in a free society. Just because there is a right to do something, does not mean it is right to do it.

BTW, I have yet to see this story in the MSM. If the lad was right to be doing this "Demonstration," we would have heard about that from the left. But since an armed citizen was alert and acted appropriately, we won't.
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Title 38. Crimes and Punishment; Peace Officers and Public Defenders

Chapter 574. Offenses Against Public Order

574.115. Making a terrorist threat, first degree penalty
1. A person commits the offense of making a terrorist threat in the first degree if such person, with the purpose of frightening ten or more people or causing the evacuation, quarantine or closure of any portion of a building, inhabitable structure, place of assembly or facility of transportation, knowingly:

(1) Communicates an express or implied threat to cause an incident or condition involving danger to life; or

(2) Communicates a false report of an incident or condition involving danger to life; or

(3) Causes a false belief or fear that an incident has occurred or that a condition exists involving danger to life.

2. The offense of making a terrorist threat in the first degree is a class D felony.

3. No offense is committed under this section by a person acting in good faith with the purpose to prevent harm.

Firefighter wins.
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