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Bad Move Trump.

Now there's NO treaty we can ask/demand others to live up to.
And now we have zero right complain about other nations nuclear programs.
Since we don't recognize any limits, why should anyone else?

So i guess it's back to M.A.D.D., but this time a world wide nuke arms race... becasue NO one wants to comply with any treaties.

Great.

But Trump did it, so it's OK I guess.
he's a man's man for doing it.. mm hmm.

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Default Re: INF nuclear treaty: US pulls out of Cold War-era pact with Russia

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At a glance,
Bad Move Trump.

Now there's NO treaty we can ask/demand others to live up to.
And now we have zero right complain about other nations nuclear programs.
Since we don't recognize any limits, why should anyone else?

So i guess it's back to M.A.D.D., but this time a world wide nuke arms race... becasue NO one wants to comply with any treaties.

Great.

But Trump did it, so it's OK I guess.
he's a man's man for doing it.. mm hmm.
When you have a two party agreement and one party routinely ignores said agreement and constantly violates that agreement, do you really have an agreement? It was the right thing to do to pull out of the agreement because at that point all you are doing is tying your own hands.
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When you have a two party agreement and one party routinely ignores said agreement and constantly violates that agreement, do you really have an agreement? It was the right thing to do to pull out of the agreement because at that point all you are doing is tying your own hands.
there are other ways to deal with someone not keeping an agreement.
Pulling out is ONE way to deal with it, but IMO in this case it's not he BEST way.

Here's something to keep in mind as well.
the US promised not to deploy missle in the former soviet satellite states that have now become part of NATO. but we have.
Even tanks and thousands of U.S. troops stationed and pointing at the boarders of Russia.

No one hands are clean here.
and personally i just suspect hidden hands (deep sate, oligarchy, establishment, whatever) that have orchestrated this. many have been trying to break and/or "engage" Russia for many years.
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