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Old 07-26-2019, 09:24 AM
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I don't agree, we are humans and should be better than predator animals in the way we kill meat.

What is wrong with stunning the animal before killing it, much more humane IMO.
I usually agree with you on most things. But in this case I think the poultry industry has done an amazing PR job.

The truth is they prefer to stun the chickens before killing them. When a chicken is stunned it is immobile and can be placed into their automated machinery and handled more predictably. When stunned, after the head is removed they don't flap all over the place and the blood is drain predictably.

Here's the thing. We have no idea what the chickens are feeling during this process. They could be feeling everything that happens to them but because they are stunned they are unable to react to it. We just don't know. They could be in immense amounts of pain as they are inserted into the machinery and butchered.

It is true that when a chicken is killed by removing it's head without stunning it, it's body flaps and convulses and takes some time before it stops moving. This could lead some to believe the chicken is feeling more pain than in the stunning method. This is doubtful. The head and thus the brain is removed in one swift cut and all signs of life in the head end almost immediately. Signals from the body are not getting back to the brain as that it is no longer attached. The convulsing of the chickens body is not coming from signals from the brain in response to pain, rather it's that the body is still alive and without the brain to direct and moderate it's actions it takes action on its own.

In summery the chicken probably feels more pain being "stunned" than it does having it's head removed and we don't know how much pain it feels while in it's stunned state. On the other hand, with its head removed, the chickens pain pretty much ends.

Note: This is not a comment on what I think about the overall topic. Merely on my beliefs concerning the suffering of chickens during the butchering process.
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Actually the stunning process relaxes the animal so it does not have an adrenalin rush which changes the texture of the meat. Your beheaded chicken is a stressed bird. Stunning is considered the most humane method of butchering fowl, swine, or cattle. At least according to my slaughtering house customers.

The OP subject is about the "religious" acts involved in butchering. It is my contention that no government should be insisting or regulating any business activity with regards to religious compliance.
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Actually the stunning process relaxes the animal so it does not have an adrenalin rush which changes the texture of the meat. Your beheaded chicken is a stressed bird. Stunning is considered the most humane method of butchering fowl, swine, or cattle. At least according to my slaughtering house customers.
I wouldn't argue that. I still maintain though that a slaughter house is going to prefer dealing with a stunned bird and that while it may be considered the most humane method, there's no way to know what the bird is feeling.

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Oh I agree absolutely.
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I wouldn't argue that. I still maintain though that a slaughter house is going to prefer dealing with a stunned bird and that while it may be considered the most humane method, there's no way to know what the bird is feeling.



Oh I agree absolutely.
A slaughter house wants the best "end Product " possible. I work with these guys every day. Checkout a company called George's Chicken.
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I wouldn't argue that. I still maintain though that a slaughter house is going to prefer dealing with a stunned bird and that while it may be considered the most humane method, there's no way to know what the bird is feeling.



Oh I agree absolutely.
It is not about easy or convenience. A good slaughter house wants the best "End Product " possible. I work with these guys every day. Checkout a company called George's Chicken.

https://www.georgesinc.com/
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