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I assume that you boycott kosher restaurants then? Do you ever go to Dunkin Donuts? Because they operate a bunch of kosher locations in the US.

And, FYI, contrary to the misinformation In this thread:



https://www.theguardian.com/lifeands...ughter-involve

And, from the KFC UK website describing how they sell halal certified chicken:



https://www.kfc.co.uk/the-colonels-way/halal
I don't "Boycott" anything. If an establishment doesn't have what I want, I don't go there. Why is that so hard to understand?

Should I force a Kosher deli to make me a non-kosher sandwich? Of course not, only an idiot Liberal would do something like that.

FYI I also don't eat donuts, they are the worst things anyone can eat. And since I have been a health and fitness nut for over 40 years. I will never go into a krispy cream shop. But I will never boycott it, or force them to sell healthy foods.

Are you starting to get it now?
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I assume that you boycott kosher restaurants then? Do you ever go to Dunkin Donuts? Because they operate a bunch of kosher locations in the US.

And, FYI, contrary to the misinformation In this thread:

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But contrary to what many assume, most animals killed by halal methods are stunned before slaughter. FSA estimates suggest that 88% of animals in the UK killed by halal methods were stunned beforehand in a way that many Muslims find religiously acceptable.
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeands...ughter-involve

And, from the KFC UK website describing how they sell halal certified chicken:

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There is no compromise to our welfare standards. We continue to insist that our poultry is stunned before slaughter, using a technique called 'stun-to-stun'. We only buy high quality, Grade A, farm-assured chicken from trustworthy suppliers, who are contractually required to meet or exceed all relevant UK and EU legislation and this will not change.
https://www.kfc.co.uk/the-colonels-way/halal

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeands...ughter-involve

And, from the KFC UK website describing how they sell halal certified chicken:



https://www.kfc.co.uk/the-colonels-way/halal

If the animals were 'stunned' then the meat is not halal or kosher or am I getting that wrong?
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If KFC wishes to introduce "halal" food for Muslims--or kosher food for Jews, for that matter--it is certainly free to do so.

But it is entirely a business decision.

Any attempt to force this upon a private enterprise is truly totalitarian.

(By the way, Ms. Fouzia's claim that the proposed change "won't affect non-Muslims" is entirely disingenuous. The "halal" food would hardly sell--thereby forcing KFC to raise its prices on everything else, in order to compensate.)
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What is stopping any Muslim anywhere from starting their own halal KFC?
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I don't "Boycott" anything. If an establishment doesn't have what I want, I don't go there. Why is that so hard to understand?

Should I force a Kosher deli to make me a non-kosher sandwich? Of course not, only an idiot Liberal would do something like that.

FYI I also don't eat donuts, they are the worst things anyone can eat. And since I have been a health and fitness nut for over 40 years. I will never go into a krispy cream shop. But I will never boycott it, or force them to sell healthy foods.

Are you starting to get it now?
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I love your example. I don't eat Krispy Kremes either. If they ever sell a real pastry, I might try them. But boycott, No.
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If the animals were 'stunned' then the meat is not halal or kosher or am I getting that wrong?
An animal that has been stunned before slaughter still meets halal requirements if the stunning method is not irreversible (kosher rules do prohibit stunning).

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...=.2137854e028a

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Yes, you are getting that wrong.
Not according to the link I posted in Post #2

Then, if I'm wrong, what DOES make meat halal or kosher?
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An animal that has been stunned before slaughter still meets halal requirements if the stunning method is not irreversible (kosher rules do prohibit stunning).

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...=.2137854e028a
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-27324224

Not according to the HFA - Halal Food Authority who is much more knowledgeable than the Washington Post on the subject I would think.

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What is halal meat?

Halal is Arabic for permissible. Halal food is that which adheres to Islamic law, as defined in the Koran.

The Islamic form of slaughtering animals or poultry, dhabiha, involves killing through a cut to the jugular vein, carotid artery and windpipe.


UK slaughterhouses must be completely halal compliant

Animals must be alive and healthy at the time of slaughter and all blood is drained from the carcass. During the process, a Muslim will recite a dedication, know as tasmiya or shahada.

There is debate about elements of halal, such as whether stunning is allowed.

Stunning cannot be used to kill an animal, according to the Halal Food Authority (HFA), a non-profit organisation that monitors adherence to halal principles. But it can be used if the animal survives and is then killed by halal methods, the HFA adds.
I feel that is is abuse to slice up an animal's jugular and just let them bleed out. That's horrible
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https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-27324224

Not according to the HFA - Halal Food Authority who is much more knowledgeable than the Washington Post on the subject I would think.



I feel that is is abuse to slice up an animal's jugular and just let them bleed out. That's horrible
The last sentence of that quote says the same thing I said. As long as the stunning method itself does not kill the animal, an animal can be stunned and then slaughtered using halal methods.
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The way I see it, food is food, however one eats it, cooks it, renders it lifeless, whatever. Has anyone not seen those wild life videos where the predators have taken down a big animal, and they start eating him while the prey is still struggling to get away? I don't owe anybody, spirit or otherwise, any set method to how I prepare my nourishment. I don't thank my food either for providing me with sustenance. I think it would appreciate it better if I allowed it to live. No can do.
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