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Statistics are a blow to country’s biggest pharmaceuticals that paid millions of dollars in out of court settlements
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Drug makers and distributors flooded the US with more than 75bn opioid pills in the crucial years when the country’s epidemic of painkiller addiction and deaths surged to record levels, according to previously secret data released by an American court.
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The publication of the Drug Enforcement Administration statistics is a blow to some of the country’s biggest pharmaceutical firms that have paid hundreds of millions of dollars in out of court settlements in part to keep sealed evidence that they profiteered from escalating demand for opioids even as public health officials were declaring an epidemic.
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capitalism baby,
supply and demand... right?

Drug makers are just doing business!
only socialist/communist would question that.!!!!


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Default Re: Drug makers flooded US with billions of opioid pills as epidemic surged, data sho

I'm not fully on board with attacking them.....YET...

I have a question, first...

Did they flood the market because they wanted doctors to see they were accessible to all classes and their intention was to increase their market???...

OR...

...did they flood the market because doctors were prescribing them like candy and were trying to keep up with the demand???

Or (of course), a combination or these two?...

It doesn't matter how many are "on the market" if doctors aren't prescribing them..so it takes two to tango here...
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I'm not fully on board with attacking them.....YET...

I have a question, first...

Did they flood the market because they wanted doctors to see they were accessible to all classes and their intention was to increase their market???...

OR...

...did they flood the market because doctors were prescribing them like candy and were trying to keep up with the demand???

Or (of course), a combination or these two?...

It doesn't matter how many are "on the market" if doctors aren't prescribing them..so it takes two to tango here...
Let me enlighten you on something about Dr.'s that I know personally and from nursing school. Dr.s are bombarded by drug companies to prescribe their products. I mean literally bombarded. And when a doctor looks for a medication that will ease any symptom or disease he looks in the Physician's Desk Reference which is published yearly and passed out by drug companies themselves.
Some doctors take it upon themselves to dig deeper for a different pain or relief route but most are overworked and still paying off enormous loans, so it's not like they can all quit the dr mill and go open their own practice.

The food and drug administration needs to do a better job and be given the power and staff to correct and over see these things.
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I had rn's repeat to me that my doctor says oxycontin is not habit-forming. that was in 2007 when I had my heart surgery.
And according to what pharmacy companies were telling the doc that was the thought. And you know they knew . if they did ONE test they knew
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The Family That Built an Empire of Pain
The Sackler dynasty’s ruthless marketing of painkillers has generated billions of dollars—and millions of addicts.


An addiction specialist said that the Sacklers’ firm, Purdue Pharma, bears the “lion’s share” of the blame for the opioid crisis.
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Since 1999, two hundred thousand Americans have died from overdoses related to OxyContin and other prescription opioids. Many addicts, finding prescription painkillers too expensive or too difficult to obtain, have turned to heroin. According to the American Society of Addiction Medicine, four out of five people who try heroin today started with prescription painkillers. The most recent figures from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention suggest that a hundred and forty-five Americans now die every day from opioid overdoses.

Andrew Kolodny, the co-director of the Opioid Policy Research Collaborative, at Brandeis University, has worked with hundreds of patients addicted to opioids. He told me that, though many fatal overdoses have resulted from opioids other than OxyContin, the crisis was initially precipitated by a shift in the culture of prescribing—a shift carefully engineered by Purdue. “If you look at the prescribing trends for all the different opioids, it’s in 1996 that prescribing really takes off,” Kolodny said. “It’s not a coincidence. That was the year Purdue launched a multifaceted campaign that misinformed the medical community about the risks.” When I asked Kolodny how much of the blame Purdue bears for the current public-health crisis, he responded, “The lion’s share.”....

...Keith Humphreys, a professor of psychiatry at Stanford, who served as a drug-policy adviser to the Obama Administration, said, “That’s the real Greek tragedy of this—that so many well-meaning doctors got co-opted. The level of influence is just mind-boggling. Purdue gave money to continuing medical education, to state medical boards, to faux grassroots organizations.”According to training materials, Purdue instructed sales representatives to assure doctors—repeatedly and without evidence—that “fewer than one per cent” of patients who took OxyContin became addicted. (In 1999, a Purdue-funded study of patients who used OxyContin for headaches found that the addiction rate was thirteen per cent.)

Within five years of its introduction, OxyContin was generating a billion dollars a year. “There is no sign of it slowing down,” Richard Sackler told a team of company representatives in 2000. The sales force was heavily incentivized to push the drug. In a memo, a sales manager in Tennessee wrote, “$$$$$$$$$$$$$ It’s Bonus Time in the Neighborhood!” May, who was assigned to the Virginia area, was astonished to learn that especially skillful colleagues were earning hundreds of thousands of dollars in commissions. One year, May’s own sales were so brisk that Purdue rewarded him with a trip to Hawaii. As prescriptions multiplied, Purdue executives—and the Sackler family members on the company’s board—appeared happy to fund such blandishments. Internal budget plans described the company’s sales force as its “most valuable resource.” In 2001, Purdue Pharma paid forty million dollars in bonuses....

... They duped the F.D.A., saying it lasted twelve hours. They lied about the addictive properties. And they did all this to grow the opioid market, to make it O.K. to jump in the water. Then some of these other companies, they saw that the water was warm, and they said, ‘O.K., we can jump in, too.’ ” There may be significant legal distinctions between a tobacco company and an opioid producer, but to Moore the ethical parallel is unmistakable: “They’re both profiting by killing people.”...
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2...empire-of-pain
Big Pharma's goal is to MAKE MONEY by SELLING DRUGS.
To often helping people's health is the marketing tool not necessarily the real product.
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It doesn't matter how many are "on the market" if doctors aren't prescribing them..so it takes two to tango here...
Exactly. I personally know of a few pain management MD's that were prescribing them like candy but I also know of a couple of them that did not prescribe them like that and used other treatment options. I actually worked in a pain management clinic for over a year with a Neurosurgeon who definately had standards of practice when it came to prescribing these opioid medications... we did not "give them out like candy". But there were quite a few pain management MD's that were.
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Drug Dealer, M.D.': Misunderstandings And Good Intentions Fueled Opioid Epidemic

"On how Lembke realized there was a problem in her own practice
How Doctors Were Duped, Patients Got Hooked, and Why It's So Hard to Stop
by Anna, M.D. Lembke

It was very insidious and subtle. One of the ways I realized was that my patients weren't getting better. They were asking for more and more medications at higher and higher doses. They were wanting early refills, and then it really wasn't until the prescription drug monitoring program was made available in the state of California where I could go online and see the other prescriptions that my patients were getting from other doctors when I suddenly realized what a huge problem it was — not just for patients taking opioid painkillers — but also for my own patients...."
Doctors were taught that no dose was too high. So if you had a patient who responded to opioids, but then developed tolerance where that dose wasn't working, when they came back in you should just give them more opioids. And that's how we got to this place where we have patients who are on unbelievable doses, astronomical amounts. ...

Doctors were told that opioids are not addictive as long as you're prescribing them for a patient in pain, as if there was some sort of magic halo effect with the prescription. That also is obviously not true. Now we're seeing studies showing that upwards of 50 percent of patients taking opioids long-term for a medical condition begin to show signs and symptoms of addiction to those opioids.

On what Lembke means when she says that big medicine and Big Pharma "were in cahoots"
The pharmaceutical industry realized that they can no longer directly go to doctors to get them to prescribe their pills. Various regulations were put in place to prevent them giving gifts and pens and hats and things that we do know can influence doctor prescribing. So instead they took a kind of Trojan horse approach and infiltrated regulatory agencies and academic medicine in order to convince doctors that prescribing more opioids was evidence-based medicine, and evidence-based medicine means medicine based on science, and that's something that all doctors are supposed to practice. ...
So for example, what they did was Purdue Pharma joined forces with the Joint Commission, and the Joint Commission is an organization that accredits hospitals, and Purdue Pharma gave all kinds of teaching material to the Joint Commission and said, "You really need to make doctors treat pain more aggressively and that needs to be a quality measure." So the Joint Commission said, "You know what? You're absolutely right, and we're going to do that and we're going to take your videos that you made that tell doctors that opioids aren't addictive as long as they're treating them for pain." ...

So it became a kind of groupthink where it looked like treating pain aggressively with opioids was something that was based on science, when in fact it was based on Big Pharma's influence of these major regulatory bodies.
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-...pioid-epidemic


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43PTI9zGktE
"the chief of addiction medicine at Stanford will discuss the unwitting role physicians have played in this crisis and some of the solutions for its resolution."
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Let me enlighten you on something about Dr.'s that I know personally and from nursing school. Dr.s are bombarded by drug companies to prescribe their products. I mean literally bombarded. And when a doctor looks for a medication that will ease any symptom or disease he looks in the Physician's Desk Reference which is published yearly and passed out by drug companies themselves.
Some doctors take it upon themselves to dig deeper for a different pain or relief route but most are overworked and still paying off enormous loans, so it's not like they can all quit the dr mill and go open their own practice.

The food and drug administration needs to do a better job and be given the power and staff to correct and over see these things.
Yeah, don't blame the Doctors,,,; They are just victims of Big Pharma
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jailed-...ic-60-minutes/

Don't blame big Pharma, they are just serving the doctors.
https://www.buzzworthy.com/jail-time...id-executives/

President Trump declared war on the Opioid crisis early in his term.

The media reacted accordingly by condemning his efforts.
Trump war on opioidsTrump’s war on opioids will be a disastrous, expensive failure. On Oct. 26, President Donald Trump declared opioid abuse a public health emergency and promised to redirect federal resources to the problem. In his speech announcing yet another war on drugs, Trump told a story about his brother Fred’s addiction to a completely legal substance: alcohol.


https://www.bing.com/search?q=Trump+...612FAC6486C2BA

Guess what? Opioid deaths are down in 2018 and again this year.
https://www.csmonitor.com/USA/2018/1...mic-levels-off
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I blame Big Pharma AND the Doctor's. Saying the doctors were 'duped' is SUCH a freaking cop out. Doctor's know better and no one can tell me that they are THAT stupid.

I've known people that have gotten as many Lor Tabs (Hydrocodone) as they wanted as their doctor gave them out as candy. Never did see what people saw in them, whenever I've taken one they made me sick to my stomach.
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