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Twas a great, non-partisan event. Wish they'd do that every year.

Trump defies ominous predictions with nonpartisan July 4th salute to American spirit

President Trump struck a patriotic, nonpartisan and unifying note during his address at Fourth of July celebrations in Washington, D.C., as the massive crowd of attendees avoided clashes despite provocations from protesters.

The event defied the critics who said the celebration on Thursday would be a partisan political spectacle that would not even attract a significant crowd. CBS, ABC, NBC and MSNBC snubbed the celebration and didn’t air it live, save for their online streaming platforms.

Yet a massive crowd gathered on the Lincoln Memorial despite the rain, with Trump later tweeting an aerial photo showing an audience that filled both sides of the memorial’s Reflecting Pool and stretched to the Washington Monument.

The president used the speech to call on Americans to “stay true to our cause” and praised American heroes including the Armed Forces and civil rights leaders.

“Our nation is stronger today than it ever was before. It is its strongest now,” Trump said. “We celebrate our history, our people, and the heroes who proudly defend our flag: the brave men and women of the United States military.”

“For over 65 years, no enemy Air Force has managed to kill a single American soldier. Because the skies belong to the United States of America,” he added.

He went on to pay tribute to the U.S. Border Patrol and U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) and hailed Harriet Tubman and Frederick Douglass, African-Americans who campaigned to abolish slavery over 100 years ago, as great Americans.

The visuals -- flyovers by every branch of the military, a display of tanks and other military hardware, the president rallying Americans before the Lincoln Memorial -- drew complaints from critics that Trump was politicizing the holiday while flexing U.S. military might to an uncomfortable degree. The tenor of the address, however, still marked a contrast with the predictions made by 2020 Democratic presidential candidates who said that Trump would focus on his presidency rather than American ideals. Instead, he strictly stuck to history as he cited numerous tales of valor to weave a story of the American spirit.

“I wonder what Donald Trump will say this evening, when he speaks to the nation at an event designed more to stroke his ego than celebrate American ideals,” former Vice President Joe Biden, the 2020 Democratic primary front-runner, said during an event in Iowa.

Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand of New York also fired away at Trump, telling reporters that the event was “a waste of money, you know he’s having a parade for himself, putting tanks out there for himself, and if he really cares about the men and women of our nation he would be investing in higher pay, better housing, better health care.”

Rep. Tulsi Gabbard seconded, saying the event “dishonors our troops, dishonors our service members and veterans.”

She added: “Because it’s really all about Trump. It’s not about our service members, it’s not about their sacrifices it’s not about my brothers and sisters who lost their lives in service to this country and that’s the most unfortunate thing.”

Before the event and around the nation’s capital, rowdy agitators linked to the Revolutionary Communist Party and other groups gathered to protest the event, chanting “America was never great.”

But the streets of Washington remained generally peaceful, with only some minimal clashes between the fringes of the far-left and far-right.

The agitators burned at least two American flags in front of the White House, prompting the Secret Service to intervene to put out the fire.

The Secret Service said one person was arrested for felony assault on a police officer and malicious burning. The other was arrested for hindering a police investigation and resisting arrest.

Neither individual was identified. One of the individuals arrested and two Secret Service officers were being treated for minor injuries.

Still, this was a far cry from the fears that the day could resemble Trump’s inauguration ceremony in 2017, when black-clad activists created havoc and the city saw violent clashes between them and die-hard supporters of the president, or the deadly Charlottesville rally that attracted neo-Nazis and white supremacists.

Instead, ordinary Americans came to watch the event that Trump called “one of the biggest celebrations in the history of our Country.”

“Even though everybody has different opinions, everybody’s getting along,” Kevin Malton, a Trump supporter from Kentucky, told the Associated Press.

Trump’s fervent critics, meanwhile, resorted to erecting a “Trump baby” balloon to protest what activists saw as his intrusion in Independence Day and a focus on military might that they associate with martial regimes.

“We think that he is making this about himself and it’s really a campaign rally,” said Medea Benjamin, Code Pink’s co-director. “We think that he’s a big baby. ... He’s erratic, he’s prone to tantrums, he doesn’t understand the consequences of his actions. And so this is a great symbol of how we feel about our president.”

The Associated Press contributed to this report.
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It is my understanding that this event cost several million dollars--exactly how many million is unclear--but as of 2018, welfare spending in the US was actually 1.1 trillion dollars: https://www.heritage.org/welfare/rep...-how-reform-it

So even if we were to say that the actual cost of the Fourth of July extravaganza were some 10 million dollars--and again, the exact cost is uncertain--that would come to just 0.0000009 percent of America's total welfare spending in 2018.

Viewed in that way, it really does not seem like an unreasonable expenditure.
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I watched it. It was really good. Everything was well-planned. Libs are gonna have to come up with some hardcore sh*t to find somethin' wrong with it.
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Twas a great, non-partisan event. Wish they'd do that every year.
Non-partisan event?

The crowd was divided along partisan lines of Trump supporters and Trump opponents often flinging highly inflammatory partisan statements at each other. There was no American unity on display at Trump's event that was nothing more than a Trump campaign event where he didn't specifically get into hurling insults at Democrats.

Trump didn't even capture the theme of the 4th of July because he "militarized it" as a tribute to himself. The signing of the Declaration of Independence had a lot of meaning and none of it related to war and tyranny imposed by military might. If Trump wanted to honor the US military then it should have been on Saturday, June 19th, that was Armed Services Day.

Instead of honoring the US military Trump actually disgraced it by putting it on display for his own purpose. A nation as powerful as the United States does not need to display it's military might. That's something that only a two-bit dictator would do and Trump has shown great admiration for two-bit dictators. Displaying military might is a sign of weakness, not of strength.

In remembering the first 4th of July the focus needed to be on the founding of the United States that became the world's refuge for the oppressed. If we're to remember anything then it's that the United States was founded by refugees fleeing from the tyranny and oppression in their native countries. The "refugees" that Trump will not allow into the United States today and, at his directions, are being subjected to inhuman treatment so severe that it's been labelled as torture by the independent inspectors that have toured the CBP detention facilities.

Trump doesn't have any regard for American history or for what the 4th of July represents. His event was purely partisan to promote himself and did not provide any unity for the nation. It just further divided the nation and hopefully this type of political hijacking of a national holiday for a partisan purpose will never happen again.
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Non-partisan event?
Yes, non-partisan. Despite what Rachel Maddow and the MSM tell ya it was non-partisan.

Sorry, dawg, it was a great event and nothin' to bitch about.
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Non-partisan event?

The crowd was divided along partisan lines of Trump supporters and Trump opponents often flinging highly inflammatory partisan statements at each other. There was no American unity on display at Trump's event that was nothing more than a Trump campaign event where he didn't specifically get into hurling insults at Democrats.

Trump didn't even capture the theme of the 4th of July because he "militarized it" as a tribute to himself. The signing of the Declaration of Independence had a lot of meaning and none of it related to war and tyranny imposed by military might. If Trump wanted to honor the US military then it should have been on Saturday, June 19th, that was Armed Services Day.

Instead of honoring the US military Trump actually disgraced it by putting it on display for his own purpose. A nation as powerful as the United States does not need to display it's military might. That's something that only a two-bit dictator would do and Trump has shown great admiration for two-bit dictators. Displaying military might is a sign of weakness, not of strength.

In remembering the first 4th of July the focus needed to be on the founding of the United States that became the world's refuge for the oppressed. If we're to remember anything then it's that the United States was founded by refugees fleeing from the tyranny and oppression in their native countries. The "refugees" that Trump will not allow into the United States today and, at his directions, are being subjected to inhuman treatment so severe that it's been labelled as torture by the independent inspectors that have toured the CBP detention facilities.

Trump doesn't have any regard for American history or for what the 4th of July represents. His event was purely partisan to promote himself and did not provide any unity for the nation. It just further divided the nation and hopefully this type of political hijacking of a national holiday for a partisan purpose will never happen again.
Trump's speech recounted the glorious history of our great nation. Predictably that incensed the American hating Progressives bent on the radical transformation of the country. Any acknowledgment of anything worthwhile in US history must be denied in favor of a multitude of grievances.

The Declaration of Independence coming on the heels of the violent clashes in Lexington and Concord was a breaking away from British colonial rule. There was no question the Crown was going to react by sending the military to put down the rebellion.
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I was actually shocked Trump didn't use the stage to attack his political opponents. I thought fo sho he'd open up a can of political whoop-ass. Instead he used every minute to honor our men and women in uniform.
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Non-partisan event?

The crowd was divided along partisan lines of Trump supporters and Trump opponents often flinging highly inflammatory partisan statements at each other. There was no American unity on display at Trump's event that was nothing more than a Trump campaign event where he didn't specifically get into hurling insults at Democrats.

Trump didn't even capture the theme of the 4th of July because he "militarized it" as a tribute to himself. The signing of the Declaration of Independence had a lot of meaning and none of it related to war and tyranny imposed by military might. If Trump wanted to honor the US military then it should have been on Saturday, June 19th, that was Armed Services Day.

Instead of honoring the US military Trump actually disgraced it by putting it on display for his own purpose. A nation as powerful as the United States does not need to display it's military might. That's something that only a two-bit dictator would do and Trump has shown great admiration for two-bit dictators. Displaying military might is a sign of weakness, not of strength.

In remembering the first 4th of July the focus needed to be on the founding of the United States that became the world's refuge for the oppressed. If we're to remember anything then it's that the United States was founded by refugees fleeing from the tyranny and oppression in their native countries. The "refugees" that Trump will not allow into the United States today and, at his directions, are being subjected to inhuman treatment so severe that it's been labelled as torture by the independent inspectors that have toured the CBP detention facilities.

Trump doesn't have any regard for American history or for what the 4th of July represents. His event was purely partisan to promote himself and did not provide any unity for the nation. It just further divided the nation and hopefully this type of political hijacking of a national holiday for a partisan purpose will never happen again.


The event was not aimed at America-hating jackasses, be they veterans or otherwise.
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It is my understanding that this event cost several million dollars--exactly how many million is unclear--but as of 2018, welfare spending in the US was actually 1.1 trillion dollars: https://www.heritage.org/welfare/rep...-how-reform-it

So even if we were to say that the actual cost of the Fourth of July extravaganza were some 10 million dollars--and again, the exact cost is uncertain--that would come to just 0.0000009 percent of America's total welfare spending in 2018.

Viewed in that way, it really does not seem like an unreasonable expenditure.
Welfare spending mitigates the failure of capitalism to provide a livable income for significantly large percentage of Americans. Roughly half of all working households live paycheck to paycheck without the income to cover unexpected mandatory expenditures. Welfare doesn't fix the problem. Welfare only mitigates the problem to prevent Americans from going bankrupt and starving to death.

The cost doesn't have anything to do with the fact that this was a partisan event with the sole purpose of promoting Donald Trump. Trump's speech had little if anything to do with why we celebrate the 4th of July and bringing in the show of military might was about promoting Trump and had nothing to do with what the 4th of July is about. The 4th of July has never been about the American Revolution. It's always been about the ideology established by the signing of the Declaration of Independence.

We also know by the actions of those attending the event it was extremely partisan as opposed to being a uniting event for all Americans regardless of their personal political beliefs. It was marked by pro-Trump supporters and anti-Trump protesters. There was no unity at all between those that attended the event. The entire reason for the 4th of July celebration was lost because of the partisanship that President Trump introduced into the "celebration" that stopped being a celebration for those attending.

There was a reason that prior presidents didn't attend the 4th of July festivities. They knew that their presence would turn the event into a partisan event where the unity of all Americans would be lost. Trump didn't care because to him the event was to glorify his presidency and he was the focus, not the signing of the Declaration of Independence over 200 years ago,
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