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Dog Man 06-20-2019 03:23 PM

Reparations for Slavery
 
https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/...arty-politics/

Dog Man 06-20-2019 04:05 PM

Re: Reparations for Slavery
 
I'm curious as to how they are going to collect the money. Shouldn't they take the money from the descendants of the slave owners?

My great great grandfather was in the union army, and none of us ever even lived in the south. Should we have to pay?

My biggest question is, will this be good for black America? Or will it create a volatile divide?

Dog Man 06-20-2019 04:18 PM

Re: Reparations for Slavery
 
I'm curious as to how they are going to collect the money. Shouldn't they take the money from the descendants of the slave owners?

My great great grandfather was in the union army, and none of us ever even lived in the south. Should we have to pay?

My biggest question is, will this be good for black America? Or will it create a volatile divide?

Dog Man 06-20-2019 04:27 PM

Re: Reparations for Slavery
 
Burgess Owens, formerly of the Jets and Raiders, spoke during hearings for H.R. 40, a bill designed to study how to implement reparations for black Americans. The question of what, if anything, America owes to the descendants of slaves is at the heart of H.R. 40, and it’s a question for which Owens, along with a long list of other notable figures, offered an answer.

Speaking for five minutes, Owens noted his own lineage traces directly back to slaves. But, he added, “this is not about black and white, rich or poor, blue collar white collar. We’re fighting for the hearts of our nation.” Owens emphasized that his ancestors battled their way out of their circumstances following emancipation by hard work.

“I do not believe in reparation, because what reparation does, it points to a certain race, a certain color, as evil, and it points to another race, my race, as one that has not only become racist, but also beggars.”

During a portion of his allotted five minutes, Owens took the discussion in specific political directions. “I used to be a Democrat until I did my history and found the misery that party brought to my race ... Let's pay restitution. How about the Democratic Party pay for all the misery brought to my race?”

Owens continued, “And every white American, Republican or Democrat, who feels guilty because of the color of their skin, you can pony up also. Then we can get past reparations and recognize this country has given us greatness.”

Hairy Jello 06-20-2019 04:42 PM

Re: Reparations for Slavery
 
Reparations are a terrible idea. Where does it end? How far back in history are we gonna go?

Slavery is over. Time to move on.

Dog Man 06-20-2019 04:52 PM

Re: Reparations for Slavery
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hairy Jello (Post 971551)
Reparations are a terrible idea. Where does it end? How far back in history are we gonna go?

Slavery is over. Time to move on.

Yeah, and you just made me think about, will it just be for black people now?

Or will it be for every black person that is born in the United states for eternity? I think it would have to be. If they give something to every black person alive now, that will not be fair for the black kids in the future.

lurch907 06-20-2019 05:15 PM

Re: Reparations for Slavery
 
Reparations is definitely one of the dumber far left ideas.
If a thinking person knew nothing else about Elizabeth Warren, this should tell him that she is too stupid to make a good president.

saltwn 06-20-2019 05:39 PM

Re: Reparations for Slavery
 
I don't know whether reparation is a good idea or not but paying for it and on what basis seem clear to me. Today's equivalent of forty acres and a mule. I'm sure some bright group of math scholars could figure this out.

And yes the premise is it is for unpaid labor for building an entire country by overwhelmingly African people so take it from taxes at 1% or even less you'll have your money. There were slaves in all the colonies so no one should be left out.
As I stated that is my opinion on the money, I am uncertain of the merit or dangers and since I am not Black cannot argue further for or against doing it.

jimbo 06-20-2019 05:44 PM

Re: Reparations for Slavery
 
I regard this as a huge slippery slope. It started with the WW II interred Japanese. And the nation paid. $20,000 to each still alive interred Japanese.

So now it's every black regardless of any connection to anything slave related.

But what about me? I was a draftee. Yanked from my home, promising job, friends and girl friends. Told where I would live, work, couldn't even leave my home without specific permission. Wore what I was told. Wasn't I a slave? Shouldn't I be compensated?

I'm sure I can find other groups. I'm sure others will.

saltwn 06-20-2019 06:45 PM

Re: Reparations for Slavery
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbo (Post 971555)
I regard this as a huge slippery slope. It started with the WW II interred Japanese. And the nation paid. $20,000 to each still alive interred Japanese.

So now it's every black regardless of any connection to anything slave related.

But what about me? I was a draftee. Yanked from my home, promising job, friends and girl friends. Told where I would live, work, couldn't even leave my home without specific permission. Wore what I was told. Wasn't I a slave? Shouldn't I be compensated?

I'm sure I can find other groups. I'm sure others will.

I don't believe army subscription is the same animal but you bring up a good point. I am certain some of my own relatives are thinking along the same lines and with a better claim since they were talked into indenturement then cruelly treated as slaves until escaping on the third attempt while the landlord was away. Our claim, however, would have to be dealt with in the U.K. since they were the offending country at the time and sanctioned the business venture.
But yes you have proposed a good argument. I was against Japanese American reparation on these very grounds.


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