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Old 05-01-2019, 02:26 AM
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"We agreed on a number which was very, very good: $2 trillion for infrastructure," Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer said, in a sign the feuding sides are willing to work together on accomplishing a major bipartisan goal to upgrade the nation's roads, bridges, airports, rail lines, waterways and broadband internet access.

"Even the president was eager to push it up to $2 trillion," the Democrat added.
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Trump, a New York real estate tycoon, has already voiced his commitment to upgrading US infrastructure.

He made it a campaign pledge in 2016, playing up his background in construction, and in early 2018 during his State of the Union address he proposed a $1.5 trillion plan.
this is what happens when you elect a democrat posing as a republican.
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probably a more accurate label would be an opportunistic populist as a majority of people support infrastructure spending.
although, i suspect that support would fall off if it meant increasing the debt and deficit.
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this is what happens when you elect a democrat posing as a republican.
I believe you are incorrect. This is what happens when the President is not a partisan

The Donald is neither a Democrat or a Republican.
The GOP won't stand behind him and the Democrats want him impeached.

And yet,
He is managing to get things done.

Infrastructure was a Trump campaign promise. I'm surprised the Democrats will let him have it.
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I believe you are incorrect. This is what happens when the President is not a partisan

The Donald is neither a Democrat or a Republican.
The GOP won't stand behind him and the Democrats want him impeached.

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He is managing to get things done.

Infrastructure was a Trump campaign promise. I'm surprised the Democrats will let him have it.
hence my second comment.

not only is he not a republican he isnít a conservative either.
the democrats simply wanted more spending and trump was more than willing to go along.
no conservative can possibly think this is a good idea.
i guess folks just forgot about the infrastructure shovel ready bloat obama put forth in 2009.
iím guessing you supported that?
keynesian economics - itís not just for progressive/liberal/democrats anymore.
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hence my second comment.

not only is he not a republican he isnít a conservative either.
the democrats simply wanted more spending and trump was more than willing to go along.
no conservative can possibly think this is a good idea.
i guess folks just forgot about the infrastructure shovel ready bloat obama put forth in 2009.
iím guessing you supported that?
keynesian economics - itís not just for progressive/liberal/democrats anymore.

You don't like TRUMP no matter what he does.

I get it,
So, why even try to have a conversation?
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The problem is the fact that President Trump has already recorded over 10,000 false and misleading statement during his Presidency so far and Trump's agreeing to anything has no value because Trump can never be trusted over anything he says.

Remember when Trump promised Congress that he'd sign any immigration reform bill they sent to his desk. Congress agreed to legislation and Trump immediately said he wouldn't sign it.

Trump's word and a cup of coffee leaves you with a cup of coffee.
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You don't like TRUMP no matter what he does.
I don't like Trump because of what he says because it's usually a lie.

Trump - "I'm going to replace Obamacare with a health care program that provides health insurance to all Americans at a lower cost than Obamacare."
Nice promise that turned out to be nothing but a lie.

Trump - "I'm going to give a tax cut to the workers of America that will not cause deficit spending."
Nice promise that turned out to be nothing but a lie.

Trump - "I'm going to bring back manufacturing jobs to America."
Just another Trump lie.

Trump - "I'm a great negotiator and I'm going to renegotiate our treaties."
So far Trump has withdrawn from over a half dozen treaties without replacing any with a Senate ratified treaty. Just another lie because Trump is incapable of negotiating with other countries that actual employ qualified negotiators.

Trump lies about everything and he has no commitment to anything or anybody but himself and he doesn't care if the whole world knows it.

I have a problem with that.
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I don't like Trump because of what he says because it's usually a lie.

Trump - "I'm going to replace Obamacare with a health care program that provides health insurance to all Americans at a lower cost than Obamacare."
Nice promise that turned out to be nothing but a lie.

Trump - "I'm going to give a tax cut to the workers of America that will not cause deficit spending."
Nice promise that turned out to be nothing but a lie.

Trump - "I'm going to bring back manufacturing jobs to America."
Just another Trump lie.

Trump - "I'm a great negotiator and I'm going to renegotiate our treaties."
So far Trump has withdrawn from over a half dozen treaties without replacing any with a Senate ratified treaty. Just another lie because Trump is incapable of negotiating with other countries that actual employ qualified negotiators.

Trump lies about everything and he has no commitment to anything or anybody but himself and he doesn't care if the whole world knows it.

I have a problem with that.
And I have a problem with people who announce and believe Trump lies about everything when, in fact, that is not true. Whilst he is as no saint, he seldom lies about what he will do or what he is doing.

You examples are about bragging not lying. Both words are useful in a political discussion but are not interchangeable.

BTW, Unlike the Obama years, manufacturing is returning to America, to credit either for what happened in their terms or not is on you.
Healthcare and deficit spending may be his intentions but are not his choices. Or have you forgotten the never Trumper's who hold the purses strings?
As for negotiations, walking away when you don't get a fair deal is better than sending planeloads of cash to achieve a bad deal.
A lie would be telling the American people you got them a good deal when you did that.
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You don't like TRUMP no matter what he does.

I get it,
So, why even try to have a conversation?
i like the trump tax cuts.
i like the 23% cut to foreign aid he proposes.
what i donít like is when he suggests or agrees to a spending bill that is twice what most of us balked at when done by a previous president.
i get it - he can do no wrong in your eyes; even agree to spending twice what obama did on an infrastructure shovel ready jobs bill.
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i like the trump tax cuts.
i like the 23% cut to foreign aid he proposes.
what i don’t like is when he suggests or agrees to a spending bill that is twice what most of us balked at when done by a previous president.
i get it - he can do no wrong in your eyes; even agree to spending twice what obama did on an infrastructure shovel ready jobs bill.
…...he can do no wrong????/ You get it wrong dude. I never said that or claim to agree with his politics. I more often simply object to his critics who's arguments are usually baseless.

Spending on true infrastructure projects is right and proper function of the government. Although I am on record here opposing the wall, so is border security a function of government.

Since we have declared sanctuary cities and states in defiance of federal law, I applaud his diverting the stream of asylum seeking illegals to those regions. However, I would prefer he took a different approach like arresting and prosecuting employers who exploit the shadow existence of illegal immigrants. It makes me angry that he misses that point.

He did stop the handing out of easy work permits, so maybe there is a cunning plan t work here. But we need to nail the bastards that employ illegals over American Citizens.

As for the tax cuts, lowering the rates does not necessarily lower overall revenues. Revenues come from business activity. Lowering personal tax rates allows taxpayers more spending choices. Historically speaking that translates to more revenue results overall. Only zero sum bureaucrats and politicians promote the opposite function.

Infrastructure improvements benefit commerce. The most obvious example is the Eisenhower Interstate system. And after 55 years, it needs a lot of up grades. A boon for the blue collar middle class in both employment and enjoyment.

Unless you think the fat cat Wall Street executives are gonna stand in wet cement for a living. Is Bernie? No! Is THE Donald? No. McConnell, Pelosi, or Schumer? Hell No! But they are the guys who are supposed to get it done.

In case you are unaware, our government doesn't "build" anything. It only writes checks.

You would suggest we send those checks to Solyndra? Iran? Or a company that hires American workers and builds bridges
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