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There's one person who thinks AOC is right, Trump.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/n...-because-of-me

And he wants all the credit for how great the VA system is now. I expect the same criticism AOC got for praising the VA.
I believe there is a significant difference between someone, who has no control or understanding, saying the VA doesn't need repair as though it was just fine when for decades it was not. And another who does have control and power saying they have just fixed it from what it was.

I believe you are smart enough to know that. However you are welcome to prove me wrong.

I also believe Trump is over the line in his statement which appears to take credit for his work at the expense of a known idiot like AOC. He should be a better person than that. I also question his wisdom in saying he "fixed it" when veterans are still committing suicide because they cannot quickly get serviced.

THE VA is better than it was two years ago but, it has a long way to go to be rated excellent. And excellent is what our veterans deserve.
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There's one person who thinks AOC is right, Trump.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/n...-because-of-me

And he wants all the credit for how great the VA system is now. I expect the same criticism AOC got for praising the VA.
Well, the VA may be doing better under Trump, but that doesn't mean it's great.

I go to Scripps in La Jolla for my orthopedic care. Knee, shoulder, and back. it is the most efficient place I have ever been. Any place, not just medical facilities. If my appointment is at 2pm they are ready at 2, if I get there 10 minutes early, they take me 10 minutes early. I have been there numerous times for xrays and exams and I'm out in 20-30 minutes.
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Didn't Trump, at least, get the rules changed so incompetent VA workers can be fired now?
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Didn't Trump, at least, get the rules changed so incompetent VA workers can be fired now?
He also has it so you can see doctors outside the VA system.

The VA system is a Leviathan. It cannot be overhauled or fixed overnight. But until Trump, every politician promised to do something,,,,, and then did nothing else but promise again at the next election.
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That's what I think also, if the Leftists have their way ALL of us will be on Medicare, can you even imagine 321 million people on a govt health care system.
Medicare is not a health care system. It's a government health insurance system. The VA provides a health care system (where insurance isn't required).


One part of the Democrat's proposal is coverage for vision, hearing, and dental that's just as important as other medical services for your body. I don't know why vision, hearing, and dental aren't covered on all health insurance plans.
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Medicare is not a health care system. It's a government health insurance system. The VA provides a health care system (where insurance isn't required).


One part of the Democrat's proposal is coverage for vision, hearing, and dental that's just as important as other medical services for your body. I don't know why vision, hearing, and dental aren't covered on all health insurance plans.
And that is why I hardly ever value your opinion on these matters. Your self confessed ignorance of the Health Insurance industry is proof that your opinions are nothing but partisan blather.
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Medicare is not a health care system. It's a government health insurance system. The VA provides a health care system (where insurance isn't required).


One part of the Democrat's proposal is coverage for vision, hearing, and dental that's just as important as other medical services for your body. I don't know why vision, hearing, and dental aren't covered on all health insurance plans.
So the Democrats want "Free" vision, hearing and dental, right? Because insurance for all 3 is available now.
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So the Democrats want "Free" vision, hearing and dental, right? Because insurance for all 3 is available now.
But one has to pay for it. Right?

Bernie says it should be a right, and therefore provided for free.
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But one has to pay for it. Right?

Bernie says it should be a right, and therefore provided for free.
Do Democrats really believe it is free? Or do they just believe that they are entitled to other peoples money?
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Cadillac is certainly descriptive of the care my spouse receives at the VA.
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Just like the question of Law Enforcement's work around the country. It often depends on where you are (...and who you are.)
In some places the VA's care is great, in other places it's crap. But overall there are serious issues that need to be addressed rather than ignored with feel good platitudes about the VA's "Cadillac Service".


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some findings of inspector general's investigation 2018

VA knew for years about dangerous conditions at Washington, D.C., hospital
Donovan Slack, USA TODAY Published 10:00 a.m. ET March 7, 2018 | Updated 12:46 p.m. ET March 7, 2018

WASHINGTON — Department of Veterans Affairs officials at nearly every level knew for years about sterilization lapses and equipment shortfalls at the Washington, D.C., VA Medical Center, but they were either unwilling or unable to fix the problems, an inspector general's investigation found. The failures put patients at risk and squandered taxpayer dollars.
Local, regional and national officials had been informed of the issues repeatedly since 2013, but investigators concluded “a culture of complacency and a sense of futility pervaded offices at multiple levels.” ...
“In interviews, leaders frequently abrogated individual responsibility and deflected blame to others,” the investigation report says. “Despite the many warnings and ongoing indicators of serious problems, leaders failed to engage in meaningful interventions of effective remediation.”
The probe found clinicians put patients under anesthesia before realizing they didn’t have equipment to perform scheduled procedures. In some cases, they canceled and redid surgeries later. In others, they ran across the street to a private-sector hospital to borrow supplies during procedures.
The inspector general’s findings go beyond the Washington, D.C., VA medical center and could help explain repeated crises in recent years at VA medical centers across the country, where problems have continued despite repeated warnings....

Local, regional and national VA officials knew for years about widespread falsification of patient wait times before revelations that dozens of veterans died waiting for appointments at the Phoenix VA in 2014 led to a national audit and nationwide effort to stop the practice. They also knew about massive rates of opiate prescriptions doled out at the VA medical center in Tomah, Wis., before news reports that a veteran died from mixed drug toxicity at the hospital in 2015 forced VA officials to reel in opiate prescription rates at the Wisconsin facility and across the nation. ...
etc etc
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ion/396914002/

Veteran patients in imminent danger at VA hospital in D.C., investigation finds
WASHINGTON — Conditions are so dangerous at the Department of Veterans Affairs Medical Center in Washington, D.C., that the agency's chief watchdog issued a rare preliminary report Wednesday to alert patients and other members of the public.
The VA inspector general found that in recent weeks the operating room at the hospital ran out of vascular patches to seal blood vessels and ultrasound probes used to map blood flow.
The facility had to borrow bone material for knee replacement surgeries. And at one point, the hospital ran out of tubes needed for kidney dialysis, so staff had to go to a private-sector hospital and ask for some.
The hospital, which serves more than 98,000 veterans in the nation’s capital, lacks an effective inventory system, the inspector general determined, and senior VA leaders have known about the problem for months and haven’t fixed it. Investigators also inspected 25 sterile storage areas and found 18 were dirty....
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...nds/100376124/
I hope this Cadillac has a 'bumper to bumper' warranty, cause it's seem kinda lemony.
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