De Blasio Threatens to Sue if Trump Sends Immigrants to Sanctuary City NYC - Page 4

pjohns · #31 (**permalink**) 04-21-2019, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ShivaTD

Overwhelmingly those family units granted temporary asylum status do not represent a threat to our public safety (i.e. they have no criminal records) and do not represent a threat of flight (i.e. they're seeking to stay in the United States, not leave it). There's no justification for detaining them at all.

That is hardly the point.

If we no longer have any enforceable borders, then we are no longer a real country--but just a large land mass, between two great oceans.

Is that really all that you want us to be?

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Originally Posted by ShivaTD

The unlawful crossing of the border became a moot violation of the law once an asylum request was granted.

So, your point would appear to go something like this:

Those seeking a better life may simply ignore our laws, until that flouting of the law becomes "moot," as they are accepted as citizens of this country.

Do I have it about right?

pjohns · #32 (**permalink**) 04-21-2019, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ShivaTD

No other administration has had this problem with refugees unlawfully entering the United States because other administrations followed the law.

Translation: No other administration has enforced the law--it has merely looked the other way...

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To my knowledge no one advocates open borders.

Really?

Not even George Soros?

Oh, and here is an article (from about two-and-a-half months ago) from Investor's Business Daily--which is hardly a fringe publication: https://www.investors.com/politics/e...-open-borders/

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Originally Posted by ShivaTD

I'm also for allowing immigration that benefits our economy, immigration based upon close family ties, and immigration to ensure diversity but, like our laws on immigration establish, the highest priority goes to the refugees fleeing tyranny in their native country.

This is the constant mantra of the left: "Immigration" (which it conveniently confuses with an illegal invasion) "benefits" our country.

As for "diversity," that is just a synonym for multiculturalism--which is antithetical to assimilation (upon which our country was actually built).

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The "natural place to go" is the country with the best reputation for freedom and liberty. That's the United States and not Mexico.

Mexico is certainly not an authoritarian country. Not in the slightest.

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No, it does not place state or local law above federal law.

How can you say that?

When a city declares itself a "sanctuary city" (or when a state declares itself a "sanctuary state"), it is, indeed, declaring that its own law is to be counted above federal law.

It is very difficult--no, impossible--to see how it could be argued otherwise.

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Originally Posted by ShivaTD

You asked me a question about "open borders" so let me respond with a question for you.

Do you support the division of power based upon federalism in the United States or do you support a central government that has all of the power?

I support the supremacy clause of the US Constitution.

Now let me ask you a question, also: Do you?

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