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https://news.yahoo.com/yahoo-news-no...160001656.html

The link it to the live feed of AG Bob Rarr's testimony before the House Appropriations Committee but it may be of limited or no value whatsoever related to the question I have for Republicans.

During questioning Rep. Robert Aderholt (R - Alabama) asked Barr about any ongoing investigation into the FISA surveillance warrant against Carter Page and the use of the "unverified and salacious" so-called Steele "dossier" in obtaining that warrant. This was placed in the context of the FBI "spying" on the Trump campaign during 2016.

Why hasn't this entire issue been put to rest by Republicans?

Carter Page had been on the FBI watchlist for years before joining the Trump campaign but was no longer a member of the Trump campaign when the FISA warrant was issued.

Christopher Steele. a former member of MI6 as head of the Russia Desk, had/has an excellent reputation of providing valuable intelligence to US intelligence services including the FBI. Any intelligence he gathers has to be taken seriously based upon his past performance.

The initial warrant was based upon over 100 pages of information related to Carter Page. The Steele "dossier" had little to do with the decision by the FISA court to issue the surveillance warrant.

The reference to "salacious" refers to a single part of the Steele memo's to the FBI where he provides intelligence information from multiple independent Russian sources that Trump had an affair with prostitutes at the Ritz-Carlton in 2013. When this part of the "dossier" was revealed by then FBI Director James Comey Trump initially denied spending the night in Moscow in 2013. The public records indicated that he had spent the night and testimony from Trump's body guard indicated that Trump had been offered the services of prostitutes by their Russian hosts and that Trump had the time to engage in the activities portrayed by Steele. The only thing missing is the actual testimony of the prostitutes that may have been involved.

While not all of the Steele intelligence on Donald Trump has been verified much of it has been. To date there's also been no evidence establishing any significantly false claims being made by Christopher Steele. Steele has maintained that the intelligence he gathered was probably 80% accurate, a high standard for most intelligence, and that certainly seems to be the case.

Christopher Steele was insulated from any knowledge of or influence by the DNC and Hillary Clinton campaign. Steele was providing pure research on Trump's actions within Russia and was not conducting "opposition research" to discredit Trump for political purposes.

All of this is known information so why do Republicans keep trying to create a false narrative about the Steele Dossier?
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yeah I'd definitely order new furniture and burn all the old sheets if I was the next POTUS
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https://news.yahoo.com/yahoo-news-no...160001656.html

The link it to the live feed of AG Bob Rarr's testimony before the House Appropriations Committee but it may be of limited or no value whatsoever related to the question I have for Republicans.

During questioning Rep. Robert Aderholt (R - Alabama) asked Barr about any ongoing investigation into the FISA surveillance warrant against Carter Page and the use of the "unverified and salacious" so-called Steele "dossier" in obtaining that warrant. This was placed in the context of the FBI "spying" on the Trump campaign during 2016.

Why hasn't this entire issue been put to rest by Republicans?

Carter Page had been on the FBI watchlist for years before joining the Trump campaign but was no longer a member of the Trump campaign when the FISA warrant was issued.

Christopher Steele. a former member of MI6 as head of the Russia Desk, had/has an excellent reputation of providing valuable intelligence to US intelligence services including the FBI. Any intelligence he gathers has to be taken seriously based upon his past performance.

The initial warrant was based upon over 100 pages of information related to Carter Page. The Steele "dossier" had little to do with the decision by the FISA court to issue the surveillance warrant.

The reference to "salacious" refers to a single part of the Steele memo's to the FBI where he provides intelligence information from multiple independent Russian sources that Trump had an affair with prostitutes at the Ritz-Carlton in 2013. When this part of the "dossier" was revealed by then FBI Director James Comey Trump initially denied spending the night in Moscow in 2013. The public records indicated that he had spent the night and testimony from Trump's body guard indicated that Trump had been offered the services of prostitutes by their Russian hosts and that Trump had the time to engage in the activities portrayed by Steele. The only thing missing is the actual testimony of the prostitutes that may have been involved.

While not all of the Steele intelligence on Donald Trump has been verified much of it has been. To date there's also been no evidence establishing any significantly false claims being made by Christopher Steele. Steele has maintained that the intelligence he gathered was probably 80% accurate, a high standard for most intelligence, and that certainly seems to be the case.

Christopher Steele was insulated from any knowledge of or influence by the DNC and Hillary Clinton campaign. Steele was providing pure research on Trump's actions within Russia and was not conducting "opposition research" to discredit Trump for political purposes.

All of this is known information so why do Republicans keep trying to create a false narrative about the Steele Dossier?



Well golly gee, it's an open and shut case.

Why was Steele "insulated" from the DNC / Clinton opposition research?
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Well golly gee, it's an open and shut case.

Why was Steele "insulated" from the DNC / Clinton opposition research?
Good question; I don't understand either. Perhaps Shiva will enlighten us. I think I know what that means but will wait on his reply.
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Christopher Steele was insulated from any knowledge of or influence by the DNC and Hillary Clinton campaign. Steele was providing pure research on Trump's actions within Russia and was not conducting "opposition research" to discredit Trump for political purposes.
This is the second time this lie was brought up, so it'll be the second time I have to expose it...

Even the New York Times knows it...Why can't you even believe your masters?...

The Trump Dossier: What We Know and Who Paid for It

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After Mr. Trump secured the nomination, Fusion GPS was hired on behalf of Mrs. Clinton’s campaign and the D.N.C. by their law firm, Perkins Coie, to compile research about Mr. Trump, his businesses and associates — including possible connections with Russia. It was at that point that Fusion GPS hired Mr. Steele, who has deep sourcing in Russia, to gather information.
When your hired by a company to do work "on behalf of Mrs. Clinton’s campaign and the D.N.C. by their law firm, Perkins Coie", then "Yeah"....That's called "political purposes...
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This is the second time this lie was brought up, so it'll be the second time I have to expose it...

Even the New York Times knows it...Why can't you even believe your masters?...

The Trump Dossier: What We Know and Who Paid for It

When your hired by a company to do work "on behalf of Mrs. Clinton’s campaign and the D.N.C. by their law firm, Perkins Coie", then "Yeah"....That's called "political purposes...
ok it seems that steele was providing intel on trump actions in russia but he didn't know or care that he was to provide politically damaging research.
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ok it seems that steele was providing intel on trump actions in russia but he didn't know or care that he was to provide politically damaging research.
PLEASE...STOP...LYING...

It's already been confirmed that that's EXACTLY what he was doing...

Secret memo on FBI states British spy was desperate to stop Donald Trump getting elected

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A former British spy behind a dossier of lurid claims against Donald Trump admitted he was “desperate” to stop him becoming US president, it was alleged on Friday.

Christopher Steele told a US justice official before the 2016 election that he was “passionate” about stopping Mr Trump winning, according to a newly released memo.

Republicans held up the comment as proof the former MI6 agent had “ideological motivations” against Mr Trump that throw into question the reliability of his evidence.
He KNEW...and he CARED...
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All of this is known information so why do Republicans keep trying to create a false narrative about the Steele Dossier?
All of that is the carefully crafted re-write of history to nurture the collusion delusion and shift attention from the dirty dealings (yes illegal too) of the Obama DOJ.

That you so matter-of-fact recite the narrative is a testament to the "Resistance" of the left to even expose themselves to oppositional news outlets.

Your puzzlement regarding the question shows just how deep the propaganda has settled; you can't even bring yourself to have a sliver of uncertainty.

It's gonna really sting when John Solomon and Sarah Carter's reporting for the last two+ years is going to be proven true. Sheesh, even Hannity's rants have been Gospel compared to the crap you have swallowed.
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Well golly gee, it's an open and shut case.

Why was Steele "insulated" from the DNC / Clinton opposition research?
Fusion GPS is in the business of providing open source research on enterprises. That's what it was hired to do related to Donald Trump. A research firm never attempts to influence the results of the research because it would discredit the research. The reputation of Fusion GPS as a research consulting firm is far more valuable than doing a single research project where bias is introduced into the research.

Fusion GPS never told Christopher Steele that the DNC or Hillary Clinton Campaign were clients and Fusion GPS never told the DNC or Hillary Clinton Campaign that Steele was providing the Russia related research. The purpose was to prevent any bias from being introduced into the research.
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PLEASE...STOP...LYING...

It's already been confirmed that that's EXACTLY what he was doing...

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A former British spy behind a dossier of lurid claims against Donald Trump admitted he was “desperate” to stop him becoming US president, it was alleged on Friday.

Christopher Steele told a US justice official before the 2016 election that he was “passionate” about stopping Mr Trump winning, according to a newly released memo.

Republicans held up the comment as proof the former MI6 agent had “ideological motivations” against Mr Trump that throw into question the reliability of his evidence.
Secret memo on FBI states British spy was desperate to stop Donald Trump getting elected

He KNEW...and he CARED...
Please check the timeline.

Christopher Steele's decision to oppose Donald Trump's election was a result of his investigation and not a factor in his conducting his investigation. Steele had no significant political opinion at all about Donald Trump when he was employed by Fusion GPS. That opinion only surfaced when Steele's sources provided the intelligence that the Russians had been "grooming" Trump as an asset and that Russian Intelligence had information they could use to compromise Trump if he was elected.

We know that part of that information was the secret dealing going on for Trump to earn hundreds of millions of dollars if Putin backed Trump's Moscow Project and that Trump would have to lift economic sanctions against Russia to obtain the funding (the bank designated to provide the funding for the Trump Moscow Project was under sanction). Steele's sources provided the intelligence on this while Trump and Putin were keeping it a secret throughout Trump's 2016 campaign. We also know that Trump Jr., Jared Kushner, and Paul Manafort met with Russian agents in mid-2016 at Trump Tower to address the sanctions against Russia that would prevent the Trump Tower Project in exchange for "dirt" on Hillary Clinton that the Russian Intelligence soon after released through WikiLeaks.

It's interesting that the Mueller Report apparently claims that Mueller didn't find the smoking gun that would establish evidence "beyond a reasonable doubt" supporting a criminal compliant of conspiracy with Russia by Donald Trump. That doesn't remove allegations of "collusion" that Steele's intelligence provided about Trump and Putin because collusion doesn't require an actual criminal conspiracy to take place. There's lots of evidence of collusion unrelated to the evidence necessary to provide guilt beyond a reasonable doubt of a conspiracy that the Mueller team was mandated to investigate.

Trump has fallen into a trap of his own making. Conspiracy, that Mueller was tasked to find if it existed, requires that the two parties are working together to achieve an {illegal) goal. Collusion merely requires the two parties to agree on a common (illegal) goal.

There's no doubt whatsoever that both Trump and Putin agreed to use any means possible, legal or illegal, to get Trump elected - THAT'S COLLUSION.
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