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Well, I wish you weren't such an idiot.

I promise I won't treat you like a thinking person ever again.
Pretty sure nobody was treating you like a thinking person in the first place though.
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You are an idiot.
Says the person who doesn't even understand Causation and Correlation.
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You are a special kind of retarded but you're a liberal so I apologize for being redundant.

I was making fun of the ridiculous correlation / causation fallacy of the OP.

The link of "dihydrogen monoxide" to all manner of unfortunate outcomes and nefarious behavior is an internet joke / parody that's been around for 20 years.

Jesus Christ I can't believe you took it, well, I can't even say seriously because your take was so off the planet and, to put it mildly, sick as ****.

Damn son! nice burn. did you cut yourself on that edge? if only everyone knew the latest internet memes like smart people like you do!
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Part of studying statistics is looking at correlation and seeing if there's actually a causal relationship. Now you would know that if you had actually ever bothered to educate yourself. And you would know that you should not outright dismiss correlation but instead use it as a tool to find a likely causation.

And if you weren't such a dishonest and ignorant partisan you might have noticed what could've changed between 2015 and 2017 that could've lead to an increase in hate crimes.
The question is, can we assign precise, definitive causation of hate crimes that could've happened, from rallies that could be perceived as encouraging people to act out? The quotes in the OP give us some guidance:
"Of course, our analysis cannot be certain it was Trump’s campaign rally rhetoric that caused people to commit more hate crimes in the host county. However, suggestions that this effect can be explained through a plethora of faux hate crimes are at best unrealistic. In fact, this charge is frequently used as a political tool to dismiss concerns about hate crimes. Research shows it is far more likely that hate crime statistics are considerably lower because of underreporting."


The study can not be forced to say that it was Trump rallies that created more hate crimes.

They acknowledge that the number of fake hate crimes is not without notice and the word they have chosen to describe that number is "PLETHORA" . . .
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overabundance; excess:
Unrealistically, the writers are willing to just dismiss the mention of faked hate crimes because of non-reporting of incidents they claim occur.

Now, I'm sure some under-reporting of real incidents exists but the quantifying of that number is impossible and it sure isn't legitimate to use the unknown to dismiss the known. I believe trying to separate the real from the fake was a task that just did not interest the writers of the study cited in the OP. It was easier to just dismiss fake hate crimes as insignificant . . . Problem is, faked hate crimes can't just be dismissed and there certainly exists opinion and study in opposition to the BS cited in the OP.
INTERVIEW – PROFESSOR WILFRED REILLY — Professor of Political Science at Kentucky State University and author of new book “Hate Crime Hoax” — discussed his new book “Hate Crime Hoax: How the Left is Selling a Fake Race War.”
  • Poli-sci professor Wilfred Reilly has found more than 400 instances of hate crime hoaxes in America in his research. The epidemic we are experiencing isn’t in hate crimes but rather hate hoaxes.
  • Is President Trump Responsible for Racial Division in America? The answer is No. Although the media continually reports that President Trump has ushered in a new era of racial hatred in our country, the majority of hate crimes occurring in the United States since 2016 have been hoaxes.
  • Hate Crime Hoax: How the Left is Selling a Fake Race War, written by African American Professor Wilfred Reilly, is a detailed, profoundly pro-Black and pro-American work of social science exposing the shocking statistics on hate crime hoaxes in the United states.

LISTEN: PROFESSOR WILFRED REILLY Discussed The Epidemic Of Hate Crime Hoaxes
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Says the person who doesn't even understand Causation and Correlation.

Are all hate crimes correlated with Trump rallies counted the same?



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the problem is there are these groups and this mindset floating in the ether of to many white men's (and women's) minds.

When Trump leaves office those people will still be there, whether Trump's condemn or condones them or not.
they were there when Obama was in office, it fair to say that Obama was used by them as an example of the "white race's" decline.
And a spur for the sad paranoid fear that they are being wiped out by the "mongrel" races.
Taking their women, and "rightful place" and such.

These ideas are not new, and sadly, even as far as the US and the west have come away from the worse of them,
these stupid ideas find a place in too many people's minds. And politicians have and will play off of it overtly and covertly.

anyone old enough to remember the Bush Senior's "Willie Horton" "neutral" political ad.
Or Hillary talking about young black "super predators" to pass 3 strikes laws.
Frightening white folks into a corner with fears of 'Injuns', Blacks, Latinos, and Muslims is a tried and true way to rally some Americans into a crowd and getting votes. Herd emotion driven mentality workin, even if it's not rational.
or Godly.
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