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Russia’s military and state-sponsored media have reacted with a fire and fury of their own to the news that the US will exit the Intermediate Nuclear Forces treaties, one of the last barriers to a full-on Cold War-like arms race in Europe – and there’s already talk of a nuclear doomsday device visiting the US.
can't read it all
can't afford another subscription at this time
https://www.kyivpost.com/russia/busi...ay-device.html
maybe some of you have one or another link?

oh ok here's story from foreign extension of same paper.

Russia's military and state-sponsored media have reacted with a fire and fury of their own to the news that the US will exit the Intermediate Nuclear Forces treaties, threatening to deploy a nuclear "doomsday device."
The US found Russia in violation of a key arms treaty, so the US scrapped the treaty and announced it would create its own formerly banned weapons.
Russia responded by saying it would build its own new nukes in retaliation, and its state-controlled media said nuclear war was now more likely.
Russian media also floated the possibility of sailing an underwater nuclear doomsday device to the US's coast. Experts say this is perhaps the most dangerous weapon ever built.

The INF treaty banned land-based nuclear capable missiles with a range between 300 and 3,200 miles in 1987 when Russia and the US had populated much of Europe with intermediate-ranged nuclear missiles. The ban eliminated this entire class of missiles and went down as one of the most successful acts of arms control ever.

The US and all of NATO concluded recently that Russia had spent years developing a banned nuclear-capable weapon, thereby making the treaty meaningless. The US responded by saying it would withdraw and design its own treaty-busting missiles. Russia said it would do the same, though many suspect they already have the missiles built.

But Russia's response to the US didn't stop there.

A BBC review of Russian newspapers, some state-owned and all adhering to state narratives or censored by the Kremlin, revealed some truly apocalyptic ideas.

"If the Americans deploy their new missiles near Russia's borders, and in response we deploy ours, then of course, the risk of [nuclear] conflict rises sharply," an arms control expert told one paper.

"If US missiles are deployed in Poland or the Baltic states, they'll be able to reach Russia in minutes. In such an event, the way Russia currently conceives using nuclear weapons, as a retaliatory strike, becomes impossible, since there won't be time to work out which missiles have been launched against Russia, what their trajectory and their targets are," he continued. "This is why there is now a temptation for both us and for them to adopt the doctrine of s preemptive strike."
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oh yeah he's setting the world afire

France fires nuclear-capable missile in a rare show as Russia and the US feud over arms treaty


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So, along with your half read article, you have some half baked ideas.

Here is what the Pentigon says today...;

Pentagon official: No plans to develop new missile system amid end of Russian arms treaty

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The head of Pentagon policy on Wednesday said the military is not yet planning to create or deploy an intermediate-range missile system in the light of the U.S. announcing it will no longer comply with a Soviet-era arms control pact with Russia.

Undersecretary of Defense for Policy John Rood said that because the U.S. has been in full compliance with the Intermediate-range Nuclear Forces (INF) Treaty since it was signed in 1987, "we don't have an intermediate range system or something like that that we would, that we're talking about deploying at this time."

"We're going to look at our options in this regard," Rood added.

The Trump administration last week announced long-anticipated plans to stop complying with the INF Treaty, accusing Russia of violating the agreement for years.

Moscow has for years denied breaching the agreement, though officials from successive administrations have raised the issue in failed diplomatic talks.

The treaty, signed by then-President Reagan and Soviet Union leader Mikhail Gorbachev, bans nuclear and conventional ground-launched ballistic and cruise missiles, including those that can carry a nuclear warhead, with ranges between 500 and 5,500 kilometers.

The declaration kick-starts a six-month withdrawal period, during which Russia has a final chance to comply with the treaty by destroying the missiles that violate it and associated equipment.

But Moscow has indicated it will also abandon INF, with plans to develop two new land-based missile launch systems by 2021 in order to counter U.S. developments in its missile capabilities.

In his State of the Union speech on Tuesday night, President Trump countered that the United States "is developing a state of the art missile defense system," and "will never apologize for advancing America's interests."

"Perhaps we can negotiate a different agreement, adding China and others, or perhaps we can't. In which case we will outspend and out innovate all others, by far," Trump added.

Rood, one of the leaders in creating the Trump administration's newly released Missile Defense Review, said U.S. officials will discuss their defense options with allies at a NATO defense ministers meeting later this month in Brussels.

"We're going to have to see how we adapt our defense posture in response to that new reality," Rood said.

He added that Washington doesn't "have any plans right now and aren't contemplating a deployment of nuclear missiles in Europe or anything of that nature. That's not what we're thinking about right now."
As for Trump setting the world on fire,,,;

Two years ago ISIS was in occupation of one third of Iraq and expanding. They are now virtually eliminated


Two Years ago we were losing people weekly in Afghanistan, now we are making plans to shut down that19 year old war.

Two years ago Syria was aflame and ISIS was to blame. They are now virtually gone

Two years ago our Navy and Air Force was in position and prepared to flatten the nation of North Korea. Today our President is dealing directly with Kim Jung Un, prisoners are returned, and no blood has been shed.

Two years ago the middle East and North Korea were aflame with conflict. After 8 years of languishing in constant blood shed with no progress, are winding down.

Russia, Trump's supposed buddies, are constantly prodding and provoking hostilities. But, in your considered opinion,,,; our President is the one lighting the matches.

BTW; The only place Trump is sending any troops is to our southern border.











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So, along with your half read article, you have some half baked ideas.

Here is what the Pentigon says today...;

Pentagon official: No plans to develop new missile system amid end of Russian arms treaty

Ellen Mitchel
Pentagon official: No plans to develop new missile system amid end of Russian arms treaty© Getty Images Pentagon official: No plans to develop new missile system amid end of Russian arms treaty
The head of Pentagon policy on Wednesday said the military is not yet planning to create or deploy an intermediate-range missile system in the light of the U.S. announcing it will no longer comply with a Soviet-era arms control pact with Russia.

Undersecretary of Defense for Policy John Rood said that because the U.S. has been in full compliance with the Intermediate-range Nuclear Forces (INF) Treaty since it was signed in 1987, "we don't have an intermediate range system or something like that that we would, that we're talking about deploying at this time."

"We're going to look at our options in this regard," Rood added.

The Trump administration last week announced long-anticipated plans to stop complying with the INF Treaty, accusing Russia of violating the agreement for years.

Moscow has for years denied breaching the agreement, though officials from successive administrations have raised the issue in failed diplomatic talks.

The treaty, signed by then-President Reagan and Soviet Union leader Mikhail Gorbachev, bans nuclear and conventional ground-launched ballistic and cruise missiles, including those that can carry a nuclear warhead, with ranges between 500 and 5,500 kilometers.

The declaration kick-starts a six-month withdrawal period, during which Russia has a final chance to comply with the treaty by destroying the missiles that violate it and associated equipment.

But Moscow has indicated it will also abandon INF, with plans to develop two new land-based missile launch systems by 2021 in order to counter U.S. developments in its missile capabilities.

In his State of the Union speech on Tuesday night, President Trump countered that the United States "is developing a state of the art missile defense system," and "will never apologize for advancing America's interests."

"Perhaps we can negotiate a different agreement, adding China and others, or perhaps we can't. In which case we will outspend and out innovate all others, by far," Trump added.

Rood, one of the leaders in creating the Trump administration's newly released Missile Defense Review, said U.S. officials will discuss their defense options with allies at a NATO defense ministers meeting later this month in Brussels.

"We're going to have to see how we adapt our defense posture in response to that new reality," Rood said.

He added that Washington doesn't "have any plans right now and aren't contemplating a deployment of nuclear missiles in Europe or anything of that nature. That's not what we're thinking about right now."
As for Trump setting the world on fire,,,;

Two years ago ISIS was in occupation of one third of Iraq and expanding. They are now virtually eliminated


Two Years ago we were losing people weekly in Afghanistan, now we are making plans to shut down that19 year old war.

Two years ago Syria was aflame and ISIS was to blame. They are now virtually gone

Two years ago our Navy and Air Force was in position and prepared to flatten the nation of North Korea. Today our President is dealing directly with Kim Jung Un, prisoners are returned, and no blood has been shed.

Two years ago the middle East and North Korea were aflame with conflict. After 8 years of languishing in constant blood shed with no progress, are winding down.

Russia, Trump's supposed buddies, are constantly prodding and provoking hostilities. But, in your considered opinion,,,; our President is the one lighting the matches.

BTW; The only place Trump is sending any troops is to our southern border.











geeze you have no idea what you even mean right?

pulling out of this treaty arguably restarts the arms race
maybe they werent copacetic but now they dont have to pretend
a treaty is better than none


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Two years ago ISIS was in occupation of one third of Iraq and expanding. They are now virtually eliminated
not even

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Two Years ago we were losing people weekly in Afghanistan, now we are making plans to shut down that19 year old war.
withdraw in a way that doesnt leave them and our allies asses hanging out to dry I hope
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Two years ago Syria was aflame and ISIS was to blame. They are now virtually gone
did you notice NONE of the military leaders stood up at the speech forthis?
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Two years ago our Navy and Air Force was in position and prepared to flatten the nation of North Korea. Today our President is dealing directly with Kim Jung Un, prisoners are returned, and no blood has been shed.
kim is playing with trump. we have no proof of any deals on his part. or what we have promised through trump for that matter

Two years ago the middle East and North Korea were aflame with conflict. After 8 years of languishing in constant blood shed with no progress, are winding down.

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Russia, Trump's supposed buddies, are constantly prodding and provoking hostilities. But, in your considered opinion,,,; our President is the one lighting the matches.
putin tells trump what he wants in those secret meetings

an arms race to make them both rich
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