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Default President Trump blames Russia as US pulls out of nuclear arms treaty

https://www.pressdemocrat.com/news/9...ames-russia-as


yeah

nothing but a ploy to allow russia the out

guess what they are bulking up their medium rage as we speak
putin must have given donald the nod in their private talks
then commie pompeo went along on the details

sunzabishes

right in front of our eyes
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Default Re: President Trump blames Russia as US pulls out of nuclear arms treaty

More credible source.

Basically Russia has violated the treaty and we decided to pull out because of their actions.

I said, "pull out." Giggity.

Russia to pull plug on nuclear arms pact after US does same

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MOSCOW (AP) — Following in the footsteps of the U.S., Russia will abandon a centerpiece nuclear arms treaty but will only deploy intermediate-range nuclear missiles if Washington does so, President Vladimir Putin said Saturday.

President Donald Trump accused Moscow on Friday of violating the 1987 Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces treaty with “impunity” by deploying banned missiles. Trump said in a statement that the U.S. will “move forward” with developing its own military response options to Russia’s new land-based cruise missiles that could target Western Europe.

Moscow has strongly denied any breaches and accused Washington of making false accusations in order to justify its pullout.

U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, in explaining that Washington on Saturday formally suspended its treaty obligations, said in a statement that Russia’s “continued noncompliance has jeopardized the United States’ supreme interests.” He said the treaty will terminate in six months unless Moscow returns to “full and verifiable compliance.”

The collapse of the INF Treaty has raised fears of a repeat of a Cold War showdown in the 1980s, when the U.S. and the Soviet Union both deployed intermediate-range missiles on the continent. Such weapons were seen as particularly destabilizing as they only take a few minutes to reach their targets, leaving no time for decision-makers and raising the likelihood of a global nuclear conflict over a false launch warning.

After the U.S. gave notice of its intention to withdraw, Putin said Russia would do the same. He ordered the development of new land-based intermediate-range weapons, but emphasized that Russia won’t deploy them in the European part of the country or elsewhere unless the U.S. does so.

“We will respond quid pro quo,” Putin said. “Our American partners have announced they were suspending their participation in the treaty, and we will do the same. They have announced they will conduct research and development, and we will act accordingly.”

The U.S. has accused Russia of developing and deploying a cruise missile that violates provisions of the pact that ban production, testing and deployment of land-based cruise and ballistic missiles with a range of 500 to 5,500 kilometers (310 to 3,410 miles). Trump’s move also reflected his administration’s view that the pact was an obstacle to efforts needed to counter intermediate-range missiles deployed by China, which isn’t part of the treaty.

NATO allies have strongly backed Washington and urged Moscow to save the treaty by returning to compliance.
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Default Re: President Trump blames Russia as US pulls out of nuclear arms treaty

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https://www.pressdemocrat.com/news/9...ames-russia-as


yeah

nothing but a ploy to allow russia the out

guess what they are bulking up their medium rage as we speak
putin must have given donald the nod in their private talks
then commie pompeo went along on the details

sunzabishes

right in front of our eyes
Why on earth would Russia want to pull out of a treaty that inhibited the US but they could violate with impunity? Withdrawing from the sham treaty is the opposite of what Trump the Russian asset would do but the Resistance requires making up a story to support the childish orange man bad no matter the facts.
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Why on earth would Russia want to pull out of a treaty that inhibited the US but they could violate with impunity? Withdrawing from the sham treaty is the opposite of what Trump the Russian asset would do but the Resistance requires making up a story to support the childish orange man bad no matter the facts.
The US wasn't affected by the treaty because we have no reason to produce land based tactical nuclear armed cruise missiles. We don't have any perceived enemies within range of these nuclear weapons and would not use them if we had them. The use of nuclear weapons to wage war is unacceptable, period.

Only Russia, lead by a tyrant that has no regard for human life and could potentially ignore the fact that nuclear war can never be acceptable, is able to rationalize the production of these tactical nuclear weapons because Putin can use them to threaten the democracies in Eastern Europe.

Russia acted with impunity because President Trump was doing nothing to enforce the treaty. Trump is removing economic sanctions over the Russian intervention in our elections when he should have been imposing additional new economic sanctions over Russia's violations of the treaty.
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Default Re: President Trump blames Russia as US pulls out of nuclear arms treaty

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The US wasn't affected by the treaty because we have no reason to produce land based tactical nuclear armed cruise missiles. We don't have any perceived enemies within range of these nuclear weapons and would not use them if we had them. The use of nuclear weapons to wage war is unacceptable, period.

Only Russia, lead by a tyrant that has no regard for human life and could potentially ignore the fact that nuclear war can never be acceptable, is able to rationalize the production of these tactical nuclear weapons because Putin can use them to threaten the democracies in Eastern Europe.

Russia acted with impunity because President Trump was doing nothing to enforce the treaty. Trump is removing economic sanctions over the Russian intervention in our elections when he should have been imposing additional new economic sanctions over Russia's violations of the treaty.
Actually, we have a vital reason to produce tactical nuclear weapons. It is called the NATO treaty. Remember, the United States is the only country, so far, who has used nuclear weapons.
Russia has been violating this treaty since its inception. Both Bushes, Clinton, and Obama only made noise. Trump got rid of a useless piece of paper.
The pentagon has produced scenarios where the US uses nuclear weapons. So the people who are pledged to defend this country do not find the idea of using nuclear weapons unacceptable. The United States has never found the use of nuclear weapons unacceptable, just undesirable.
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