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breaking news (for me anyway)
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/23/u...gtype=Homepage
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WASHINGTON — President Trump said late Wednesday that he would deliver his State of the Union address once the federal government reopens, capping a day of brinkmanship with Speaker Nancy Pelosi, who told the president that he was not welcome to deliver the speech in the House chamber while the government is partly closed.

“As the Shutdown was going on, Nancy Pelosi asked me to give the State of the Union Address,” Mr. Trump wrote on Twitter shortly after 11 p.m., hours after he had said he would look for another venue for the speech. “I agreed. She then changed her mind because of the Shutdown, suggesting a later date. This is her prerogative - I will do the Address when the Shutdown is over.”

The president’s seeming capitulation came even as House Democratic leaders said they were prepared to give him a substantial sum of money for border security — perhaps even the $5.7 billion he has requested — but not for a wall and not until he agreed to reopen the government. That figure is roughly double what Democrats had previously approved.

On the other end of the Capitol, in the Republican-controlled Senate, lawmakers prepared for crucial votes Thursday on two competing proposals — one backed by Mr. Trump and Senate Republicans, the other by Democrats — that would bring an end to the partial shutdown, though neither might garner the 60 votes necessary for passage.

On Day 33 of the longest government shutdown in history, Washington took on the air of a split-screen television. On one side was a spat between Mr. Trump and Ms. Pelosi — a powerful man and an equally powerful woman — over the president’s constitutional duty to periodically report to Congress on the state of the union. On the other, the House and Senate trudged along with their daily business, with lawmakers in both parties grasping for a way out of the shutdown stalemate.

It now seems all but certain that 800,000 federal employees who have been either furloughed or working without pay for more than a month will miss another paycheck on Friday. The best hope, people in both parties say, is that the expected failure of both bills in the Senate on Thursday will prompt bipartisan negotiations that could lead to a compromise.
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Those bills take very different approaches. Mr. Trump痴 bill would include $5.7 billion for the wall and extend protections to some undocumented immigrants protections that he himself revoked while sharply curtailing access to asylum.

The Democrats measure, which has been already passed by the House, would simply fund shuttered government agencies through Feb. 8, with no wall money. Responding to Mr. Trump just before midnight, Ms. Pelosi urged the president who pledged to deliver his address in the 渡ear future to accept the Democrats bill.

溺r. President, I hope by saying 創ear future you mean you will support the House-passed package to #EndTheShutdown that the Senate will vote on tomorrow, Ms. Pelosi wrote on Twitter. 撤lease accept this proposal so we can re-open government, repay our federal workers and then negotiate our differences.

But with the House set to leave town on Thursday, it is highly unlikely that the impasse will end by Tuesday, when Mr. Trump was scheduled to deliver his address, an annual Washington ritual that usually plays out with pomp in front of both chambers of Congress, the Supreme Court, cabinet secretaries and honored guests.

For Mr. Trump, it would have been a moment to command the stage with television cameras rolling and Ms. Pelosi stuck behind him, trying to figure out whether to grimace or nod. Now, the president is trying to paint Ms. Pelosi as a left-wing radical who canceled the address for political reasons, despite her assertion that she simply wanted to postpone, not cancel, it because of the burden it would impose on Secret Service agents working without pay.

的t痴 really a shame what痴 happening with the Democrats, Mr. Trump told reporters at the White House. 典hey致e become radicalized.

In the afternoon, Mr. Trump pledged to 電o something in the alternative, and it was not clear at the time whether he had completely given up on holding the speech in the Capitol. Some lawmakers raised the possibility that he could deliver it in the Senate chamber. But others, as well as some Trump advisers, suggested it would be better for him to issue the speech at the border or during a rally.
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But ultimately, the president wrote on Twitter, he decided against an alternative site 澱ecause there is no venue that can compete with the history, tradition and importance of the House Chamber. He added, 的 look forward to giving a 組reat State of the Union Address in the near future!

Mr. Trump痴 actions during the shutdown have often seemed in response to criticism from allies like the conservative commentator Ann Coulter and the prime-time hosts on Fox News. The network痴 first reaction to the president痴 decision to delay his speech appeared to indicate trouble ahead: 典rump Blinks read the headline atop the Fox website.

While the president is permitted on the floor of the House, he needs an invitation to speak. Ms. Pelosi had invited Mr. Trump to deliver the speech in a letter on Jan. 3, when she was sworn in as speaker. But in a second letter on Jan. 16, she warned that there were security concerns, and asked that they 努ork together to determine another suitable date after government has reopened, or that Mr. Trump consider delivering it in writing.

On Wednesday, Mr. Trump called Ms. Pelosi痴 bluff, with a letter saying that he had checked, and that the Secret Service had no such concerns. So he said he was accepting her initial invitation. Republican lawmakers piled on. The House Republican leader, Kevin McCarthy of California, released a video on Twitter of him signing the resolution formally inviting the president to the House.

迭etweet if you agree that the State of the Union should proceed as planned, Mr. McCarthy wrote. oh tha drama

But hours later, Ms. Pelosi fired back with a letter of her own, telling the president she would not pass a resolution authorizing him to come until the government had reopened.

As the two traded barbs, House Democrats passed yet another in a string of spending bills that would reopen the government; this latest one included $1.5 billion in border security and was based on measures that gained approval from both parties in the last Congress.

During a closed-door meeting with House Democrats on Wednesday morning, Ms. Pelosi urged her caucus to stay unified and not to peel off and begin negotiating with the president on his terms, which could muddle the stark differences between Mr. Trump and them on a critical issue.
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She also told rank-and-file lawmakers that they should not get 鍍oo bogged down on what legislation was being voted upon a direct message to some of her restive centrist freshmen, who have been meeting with Republican freshmen to discuss a bipartisan path out of the shutdown. The appeal seems to have worked; as they emerged from the closed-door meeting, rank-and-file Democrats appeared united behind their leaders demand that the government open before border security negotiations took place.

典here痴 an overwhelming consensus that this is about establishing that shutdowns are wrong, said one centrist, Representative Tom Malinowski, Democrat of New Jersey. 擢rom my standpoint, and I think this is the consensus of the caucus, everything is negotiable. Border security is negotiable. Immigration policy is negotiable. Shutting down the government is not negotiable, and we池e angry about it.

Mr. Malinowski went on: 的f we give in to this tactic in any way we will validate it, and there will be no end to these shutdowns, and the people who suffer today will be suffering again and again and again. We cannot have that.

House Democrats are also drafting their own plan for border security, which is expected to be made public in the coming days. 展e are going to be talking about substantial sums of money to secure our border, Representative Steny H. Hoyer of Maryland, the Democratic leader, told reporters.

Representative James E. Clyburn, the No 3. Democrat, said separately that Democrats could back a $5.7 billion funding measure that included drones and refitted ports of entry but no wall. That is the amount Mr. Trump has demanded for the wall he wants to build on the southwestern border.

填sing the figure the president put on the table, if his $5.7 billion is about border security, then we see ourselves fulfilling that request, only doing it with what I like to call using a smart wall, he said.

Both Mr. Hoyer and Representative Hakeem Jeffries of New York, chairman of the House Democratic Caucus, seemed to leave the door open for eventual negotiations to include talk of some kind of border barrier so long as the government was open first.

When asked point-blank if Democrats would agree to talk about a wall, Mr. Jeffries did not say no but reiterated Democratic talking points about what the party favors: new scanning technology to detect drugs and weapons, improvements in infrastructure at ports of entry and more personnel, including more immigration judges.

Mr. Hoyer was asked whether Democrats might consider permanent protections for the young undocumented immigrants known as Dreamers, in exchange for 都ome new physical barriers. He said it was clear that Mr. Trump would put money for a wall on the negotiating table.

的t痴 clear what the president wants; it痴 clear what we want, he said. 的f you have a negotiation, both parties are going to put on the table what they want.

One thing's crystal clear; this is all costing the tax payers a fortune.
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