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Hairy Jello 01-18-2019 07:14 PM

Trump says he’ll make ‘major announcement’ Saturday about partial shutdown, border ‘c
 
Hmmmmmmm. Gawd I hope Trump doesn't fold to Pelosi and give up on border security. I'll be disappointed in him if he does.

Trump says he’ll make ‘major announcement’ Saturday about partial shutdown, border ‘crisis’

President Trump on Friday tweeted that he’ll make “a major announcement” Saturday afternoon concerning the ongoing partial government shutdown and the “humanitarian crisis” on the southern border.

The announcement will occur at 3 p.m. at the White House, the president said.

Funding for a barrier at the nation's southern border has been a point of contention between Republicans and Democrats during negotiations to end the partial shutdown, which began on Dec. 22. Trump has demanded almost $6 billion in funding for a wall or barrier, but Democrats have balked at that request.

The shutdown affects about one-quarter of the government, including nine Cabinet-level departments. It has also culminated in some 800,000 federal employees off the job or working without pay.

Earlier in the day, the president tweeted that the GOP was "so unified" and there would be "no 'cave' on the issue of Border and National Security."

"A beautiful thing to see, especially when you hear the new rhetoric spewing from the mouths of the Democrats who talk Open Border, High Taxes and Crime. Stop Criminals & Drugs now!" Trump tweeted.

The White House has been engrossed in a back-and-forth with House Speaker Nancy Pelosi this week after Trump on Thursday denied her the use of military aircraft for a foreign trip. Trump "postponed" the trip, citing the shutdown, just minutes before the congressional delegation was set to depart.

“We will reschedule this seven-day excursion when the Shutdown is over. In light of the 800,000 great American workers not receiving pay, I am sure you would agree that postponing this public relations event is totally appropriate,” Trump wrote. "I also feel that, during this period, it would be better if you were in Washington negotiating with me and joining the Strong Border Security movement to end the Shutdown."

While Trump pulled the plug on using military aircraft for the journey, he gave the Democratic leader the option of flying commercially.

"Obviously, if you would like to make your journey by flying commercial, that would certainly be your prerogative,” Trump wrote.

The move came after Pelosi requested Trump to delay the State of the Union address amid the partial shutdown.

On Friday, the situation escalated when Pelosi's office accused the Trump administration of leaking plans for the congressional delegation to fly commercial to Afghanistan, saying the related security risks forced them to postpone the trip. However, the White House adamantly denied the leak allegation, calling it a "flat out lie."

Fox News' Alex Shaw, Brooke Singman, Chad Pergram, John Roberts and Kaitlyn Schallhorn contributed to this report.

Manitou 01-19-2019 01:35 AM

Re: Trump says he’ll make ‘major announcement’ Saturday about partial shutdown, borde
 
If he caves in to Pelosi, I will forever know him as Girly Boy.:D

saltwn 01-19-2019 02:59 AM

Re: Trump says he’ll make ‘major announcement’ Saturday about partial shutdown, borde
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hairy Jello (Post 959476)
Hmmmmmmm. Gawd I hope Trump doesn't fold to Pelosi and give up on border security. ...

not on border security just the notion we need a wall for 20 billion dollars the down payment of which would be over 5 million to pass a budget.


The congress had a bill including 1.6 billion for border security included for new fencing and repairs of existing fence and stations for the fiscal time period. He agreed that was fair till President Rush Coulter told him y'all would cray about it. :p

Hairy Jello 01-19-2019 09:43 AM

Re: Trump says he’ll make ‘major announcement’ Saturday about partial shutdown, borde
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Manitou (Post 959480)
If he caves in to Pelosi, I will forever know him as Girly Boy.:D

I'll be very disappointed if he does that but somethin' tells me he won't. Hope I'm right. One thing I love 'bout Trump is he sticks to his guns. Hope he stands firm on this.

Hairy Jello 01-19-2019 11:14 AM

Re: Trump says he’ll make ‘major announcement’ Saturday about partial shutdown, borde
 
Anyone think Trump will declare a national emergency and fund the wall using (forget what funds he's allowed to use during a national emergency)?

jimbo 01-19-2019 02:20 PM

Re: Trump says he’ll make ‘major announcement’ Saturday about partial shutdown, borde
 
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Originally Posted by Hairy Jello (Post 959514)
Anyone think Trump will declare a national emergency and fund the wall using (forget what funds he's allowed to use during a national emergency)?

I don't. I think President Trump is on thin ground with the national emergency.

National emergency calls should be reserved for incidents where the missiles are on the way and counter measures must start immediately.

Hairy Jello 01-19-2019 02:27 PM

Re: Trump says he’ll make ‘major announcement’ Saturday about partial shutdown, borde
 
News outlets are sayin' he's not gonna declare a national emergency; instead gonna make libs an offer to end shutdown.

If true I like the idea of makin' an offer nationally televised. That way libs can't lie 'bout what Trump offered 'em.

Hairy Jello 01-19-2019 02:51 PM

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Quote:

The offer is expected to include Trump’s $5.7 billion demand for wall money in exchange for the BRIDGE Act — which would extend protections for Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) — and also legislation to extend the legal status of Temporary Protected Status (TPS) holders, according to a source with direct knowledge.
Exclusive: Trump plans shutdown compromise

ShivaTD 01-19-2019 03:00 PM

Re: Trump says he’ll make ‘major announcement’ Saturday about partial shutdown, borde
 
Speculation on what Trump might propose is all over the place but the one thing he won't get is $5 billion for a wall.

No matter what Trump offers the Democrats are going to insist that the Shutdown ends first. Trump can offer DACA protections or anything else he wants and the Democrats are going to counter with ending the Shutdown first.

Democrats would agree to legislation for DACA and $5 billion for border protection that might include a partial funding of a wall but when they review border protection the Wall will be tossed out because it's not cost effective.

Of note the Border Patrol supports some additional barriers (walls/fences) but only in (to be determined) strategic locations and before that they want more Border Patrol agents. Without the agents first, that take about five years to fully train, any additional wall is a waste of money.

So the shutdown can be ended but in the end Trump isn't going to get his wall. He lost this fight because he's an idiot and he's just trying to find someone to blame for his own personal failure.

WallyWager 01-19-2019 04:07 PM

Re: Trump says he’ll make ‘major announcement’ Saturday about partial shutdown, borde
 
So it's a promise of some temporary protection for DACA people, of whom are already being protected thanks to the courts, for a permanent moneyhole that won't do much to stop illegal immigration, that'll also get tied up in the courts over eminent domain suits out the ass.

I'm doubtful anyone would agree to the deal.

"Here's a thing you sort of already have, gimme wall."

Art of the deal lol.


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